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This is a discussion on Apex Forever | LIGHT-FARM | UNIQUE CONCEPT within the Private Servers forums, part of the Knight Online (ko4life.com) category; He is kinda true actually, moradon got a pretty active merchant aswell now. Cz not being that active aint rly ...
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    He is kinda true actually, moradon got a pretty active merchant aswell now. Cz not being that active aint rly ppl's fault, if there would be better farming spots there as well as skills wouldn't cost 1 billion ++ (there is still alot of lvl 80 or above people w/o any skills opened and they rather just fishing atm), plenty of ppl would actually go there either for farming or for pk.

    There could also be some kinda NP shop (either getting items with np itself, or getting an item for each kills that can be exchanged later for items [nothing fancy item wise, that'd make pker OP but smth that would motivate ppl to go there]) or whatever, there is plenty of things to do to create pk and force ppl going there.


    They got a decent amount of ppl now, if they tweak CZ, making it a better place farming wise, making it easier / cheaper to open skills (putting back the old drop rate for lobo- shaula, etc when people almost 100% of the times got 1 quest item) as well as keeping a 3-4 days free starter exp prem rolling continously, the server can kinda easily become hella active.

    W/o those it's hard, but when ppl see they can hit 80 during a free prem, and could also open skills w/o hardcore farming, they ll stay, just like a decent amount do during this event now aswell.


    Main problem was and still is, is that it's debatable which is better, farming at CZ / BF, etc, or fishing with 1-2 chars (not even mentioning more chars). When smth like that is a question, CZ activity will suffer from it obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david4244 View Post
    He is kinda true actually, moradon got a pretty active merchant aswell now. Cz not being that active aint rly ppl's fault, if there would be better farming spots there as well as skills wouldn't cost 1 billion ++ (there is still alot of lvl 80 or above people w/o any skills opened and they rather just fishing atm), plenty of ppl would actually go there either for farming or for pk.

    There could also be some kinda NP shop (either getting items with np itself, or getting an item for each kills that can be exchanged later for items [nothing fancy item wise, that'd make pker OP but smth that would motivate ppl to go there]) or whatever, there is plenty of things to do to create pk and force ppl going there.


    They got a decent amount of ppl now, if they tweak CZ, making it a better place farming wise, making it easier / cheaper to open skills (putting back the old drop rate for lobo- shaula, etc when people almost 100% of the times got 1 quest item) as well as keeping a 3-4 days free starter exp prem rolling continously, the server can kinda easily become hella active.

    W/o those it's hard, but when ppl see they can hit 80 during a free prem, and could also open skills w/o hardcore farming, they ll stay, just like a decent amount do during this event now aswell.
    conclusion: the server has no pk, which means it's dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScreameR View Post
    conclusion: the server has no pk, which means it's dead.
    dead
    ded/Submit
    adjective
    1.
    no longer alive.
    "a dead body"
    synonyms: passed on/away, expired, departed, gone, no more; More
    2.
    complete; absolute.
    "we sat in dead silence"
    synonyms: complete, absolute, total, utter, out-and-out, thorough, unmitigated
    "dead silence"
    --

    So no, according to the definition of dead, ApexKO is not dead - infact it was just born and is still growing everyday, with many people always connected to the server. The only thing dead around here is your opinion.

    Not sure if you know, but on farm servers CZ will usually be a bit dry in the beginning because people are too afraid to loose a few NP's by dying, so they spend time in the beginning exp'ing and farming until properly geared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincents View Post
    dead
    ded/Submit
    adjective
    1.
    no longer alive.
    "a dead body"
    synonyms: passed on/away, expired, departed, gone, no more; More
    2.
    complete; absolute.
    "we sat in dead silence"
    synonyms: complete, absolute, total, utter, out-and-out, thorough, unmitigated
    "dead silence"
    --

    So no, according to the definition of dead, ApexKO is not dead - infact it was just born and is still growing everyday, with many people always connected to the server. The only thing dead around here is your opinion.

    Not sure if you know, but on farm servers CZ will usually be a bit dry in the beginning because people are too afraid to loose a few NP's by dying, so they spend time in the beginning exp'ing and farming until properly geared.
    then you are playing the wrong farm servers . i logged in 2 days ago to check on the activity, and it was basicly the same as before just a couple more merchants, who the fuck cares about merchants if there's no pk? and btw i saw that the border nazi on human side had around 33k np's, how long is the server up now? 1 month? in most ''big'' farm server launches you have that on the first, if not the second day. so yea, it's dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScreameR View Post
    then you are playing the wrong farm servers .
    Well, if you are playing the right farm server, it seems that one is dead too since you rather post on another server's topic.

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    Wouldn't call it dead when they have ~300++ people ( can easily grow to way more), having acceptable pk times to times atm aswell but with some small changes they can easily create a contans 100+ ppl at CZ. [Played not one server with only ~200-300 overall online ppl that had way more enjoyable pk (nearly all of those at CZ, either farming or pking) than most of the usko server i played had].

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    Big +1 to David, its a good server. People should join!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skillegend View Post
    ive fixed the issue thank you. what are the chances on upgrades because ive burn a bunch trying to go +6. usko seemed easier
    Yes USKO is easier. But you wont find out rates coz of their retarded policy "we wont tell you". So thanx for paying and supporting server but they wont give you basic information.

    Not alot of new players, those are mostly alt accounts for fishing, another great idea. 90% of online ppl are fishing. Thats why cz is empty. No point in farming anything when fishing is ALOT better. Oh yeah, and when you go in CZ enjoy being perma stun/scream/legcut. Also party bar is fucked up, have fun spamming cure on ppl that dont need it.

    They should have just wiped the server after that fishing rate fix. Put just upgrade scroll, BUS,BES,MS, and nerf opals, crude, sapphires drop rate on fishing. But if any significant change is going to be made then the server should be wiped. Not to make same mistake like they did with first fishing fix where who farmed shitload of items, good for them, and others can go fuck themselfs.

    So yeah, come, spend some money on genie ( piece of shit that should have never existed, especially on a private server, but then again "fuck you give me money") or buy exp jars ( really wtf....) and join glorious fishing server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincents View Post
    Well, if you are playing the right farm server, it seems that one is dead too since you rather post on another server's topic.
    See? ur admitting it's dead.

    I don't play any server, i'm waiting for the next USKO server to pop up. i've played Orion aswell, made 400K np's in the first month, while i also still had to level up, with that i mean to lvl 80 which takes ALOT longer than 80 in apex. and in this server were the top player has, maybe 50K at most, i can easily see that it's NOT active at ALL. Rankings proof it all.


    P.S. don't get me wrong here, i really like the Apex setup. It's a pity there's no1 to enjoy it with. I got my lvl 80 there, and found out it's not active enough for me. And i'm pretty sure there's alot people agreeing to my statement.

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    Long story short, Cz aint that active due to 2 thing mostly:

    1.: As long as fishing with few chars beats any other manual farming (or being on pair with it, but if you add to the account the effort manual farming takes, then fishing wins w/o a question)

    2.: The annoying party bar bug, that fucks up support classes unless there is a party curer ganging in every party (and even then it's kinda suxy).


    It's pretty pointless to expect ppl farming or PKing at CZ since it's headache and not rly paying off compared to other things.

    Imo with some right changes ( + fixing the party bar, which idk how hard ll be, but w/o that pking is a nightmare) they can make CZ hella active still, but will see.

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    Well there was really good pk last night and this afternoon. If you don't like the server you don't have to stay here QQing about it :S Either you like it and play or you don't :O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincents View Post
    Not sure if you know, but on farm servers CZ will usually be a bit dry in the beginning because people are too afraid to loose a few NP's by dying, so they spend time in the beginning exp'ing and farming until properly geared.
    Not really true but ok, whatever makes you sleep at night....

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneColdKillah View Post
    Not really true but ok, whatever makes you sleep at night....
    So are you saying people are farming, fishing and exp'ing because it's more fun than CZ? Or are they farming, exping and fishing to go to cz? Oh ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincents View Post
    So are you saying people are farming, fishing and exp'ing because it's more fun than CZ? Or are they farming, exping and fishing to go to cz? Oh ok.
    While this statement is correct. What you previously said is quite untrue. In the beginning people don't care so much for items and take every chance they have to go PK, even average gear is sufficient. But as the server grows, it will take a lot longer for people to PK, and people find gearing up more interesting than PK, hoping for a better PvP experience after gaining more gear. I don't think people are that worried about losing NPs because they don't really matter in the long run. I think it's more a motivational issue people have here. The fact that people don't PK is because it gives them nothing. It doesn't give them the satisfaction of achieving something, but getting a well geared character makes them happy for one reason or another.

    It could just be the lack of actual competition which causes people to loose their motivation towards PK. At least for me, that's what caused me to loose all my motivation towards this game.

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    The server has the population for decent pk. It's just people won't go cz becaues they see it empty sometimes. There could be about 50-100 people online at a given time who would have gone cz for pk if it was fuller. And of course, the farming in cz affects that alot.

    Again, the no lifers gonna QQ (zomg it has to be good right away). Let's see how this server is in three months. Do you think it will be dramatically worse or dramatically better?

    Edit: Server is at six bars today, the most it has been so far.

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