Apex Forever | LIGHT-FARM | UNIQUE CONCEPT

[MySexualIntention]

That makes me a sad panda.

Be that as it may, you're not a real bear.

[ZiggZaggClickClack]

That makes me a sad panda.

This was sad panda,look what it turned into.

[Aesteris]

Just posting to say we are reading these suggestions, but right now the main focus is still on fixing all of the reported bugs (and identifying new ones). Once that's done we can look at the official balance/EXP issues/general custom content.

Also, regarding EXP we intend to have a few "mini-events" to help reduce grinding which aren't in alpha yet (still need to fix all these bugs first before we can move onto the custom content). We intend to get these out during alpha so we can get some feedback/suggestions on them or even any other (similar?) custom events for similar purposes.

Regarding the Genie, my personal thought on that (disclaimer: I say stupid stuff a lot, so really, don't read too much from it) is that I really don't like relying on the Genie; if most people find it necessary to use the Genie, rather than actually playing (i.e. grinding), that screams to me that it's either too tedious or they have no time at all to play, but the latter is the exception there. While it is, at least, a safer macroing alternative (and probably a good seller *coughs* mgame *coughs*), the last thing I'd really want to see is everyone in-game using it because it's preferable to leveling up 'themselves'.
This is why we want to implement certain custom mini-events which you must participate in for EXP/rewards (some of you may have an idea what I'm referring to, I've seen these types of things in many MMORPGs lately. I personally find them fun, and especially detracting from the grinding aspect.).

That is not to say that the Genie won't be implemented (it probably will be, in some fashion -- we haven't figured out specifics for that yet), but if we're going to run a server where people can macro (at least, using the official macro), we want to be able to avoid people needing/wanting to use it in the first place (but obviously not to the extent it essentially becomes a PK server).

'tis a complex beast.

Edit: Aesteris can explain stuff properly, since he's the man with all the info.

This post reflects what we want the server to reflect; We'd like to make it so that you guys have FUN while playing the game rather than using genie to level up. This however doesn't mean genie won't be there, it'll be there though probably a bit different than what you're used to. As was pointed out already, someone using genie can not be competitive in the top exp spots when there's actual people trying to exp at the same spot, you should take into account that even if genie were to be enabled from the start there's NO advantage for those using genie as they wouldn't be able to exp in the good spots (their gear will be insufficient to do so).

Furthermore as twostars already pointed out, we'll be adding in atleast 1 custom random event that will allow you to level up faster than your usual mob grind / exp quest, which puts genie at another disadvantage as they won't be aware of the random event having spawned. This combined with increased EXP rewards from events such as Chaos, BDW, Juraid, etc. will allow someone who does use genie to somewhat keep up with (read: be behind of) people who actually play the game and do the things we designed for them to do.

Hopefully this clears this matter up a bit, and as ever; we're open to your suggestions and will carefully take into consider what you guys (the community) have to say on the matter.

[MySexualIntention]

qft

with genie you cannot possibly hope to do anything more advanced than paramuns... and if you want to reach the top levels quickly you won't be doing paramuns.

We all know aoe cave leeches in abyss is where it's at.

[SheldonCooper]

Guys i dont even get whats the arguing about genie? Genie is OPTIONAL and well said brutal,active people exping >> genie,so who wanna buy it i could not care less ... It should be in PUS for the ppl who don`t have time to no life on exp spots,end of story.

Yeah but thing is ofcourse you gonna KS the mobs from Genie users and get box but they will still KS you over exp all the time since they are ... well ... afk they not gonna leave the spot for you winning the loots if they are not there xD So basicaly in any case legit player will leave in the end obviously ><

[ZiggZaggClickClack]

Yeah but thing is ofcourse you gonna KS the mobs from Genie users and get box but they will still KS you over exp all the time since they are ... well ... afk they not gonna leave the spot for you winning the loots if they are not there xD So basicaly in any case legit player will leave in the end obviously ><

We all know there is lots of better mobs to kill for leveling up then genie @ paramuns whole days & nights...I mean people who use genie are mostly aware of "risk" when they are afk that something might go wrong (which usualy happens 5 min after you leave your PC). I don`t recommand anyone to use the thingie also not trying to say YEAH GO DONATE FOR IT ITS BEST THING U GONNA SPEND UR MONEY ON,but well some ppl just have to or want to keep up exping till they r afk aswell so let`s not try to ruin it for them .Also any donation for the server will be more then welcome so if some1 want`s to spend money on genie its his choice.
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[MySexualIntention]

hey, you never came around to test... phagget.

what? o.o

wut.

[Kallop]

You can make people wanna XP if they believe they can sell their hard work for some $$$$ after they are done with playing.

[nirk]

I actually enjoyed EXP-ing, well not always but most of the time as the conversations during the exping were epic and so much funny things happened. Also you spent so much time with people that you got to know a lot of players

[Nickje]

I actually enjoyed EXP-ing, well not always but most of the time as the conversations during the exping were epic and so much funny things happened. Also you spent so much time with people that you got to know a lot of players

I'd rather have the time spent on something other then exping. Such as farming a slightly better item to reach that perfect gear.

Getting to lvl 83 (or w/e will be the highest lvl) shouldn't be something I have to grind on.

I agree that parties are what makes this game cool. But exping is the most boring part about KO. It can be so much more...

[n0th1ng]

waiting to apply key o

[bigdudle]

I personally say make exping to 80 take 3-5 days max. 83 can take about a week itself or something since people could actually PK at level 80 and slowly work their way to 83 if they don't wanna rush it. PK is going to be shit for a while if not cuz everyone will be farming/exping.

[razor]

I personally say make exping to 80 take 3-5 days max. 83 can take about a week itself or something since people could actually PK at level 80 and slowly work their way to 83 if they don't wanna rush it. PK is going to be shit for a while if not cuz everyone will be farming/exping.

I personally disagree... well, I really don't know what you mean "3-5 days max", is that like no lifing 24/7? or just some casual 3-4 hours of daily exp?

It shouldn't be nearly as excruciating and slow as usko, but it also shouldn't be super easy. Might aswell just let everyone get to 83 off worms in moradon...

Idk how long it'll take 1-80 tbh, but 80-83 should in my honest opinion be REALLY tough (obviously not as much as usko). It's a needless grind that is mostly optional, so if people want it then they should know what to expect.

[SkyHunter]

I personally say make exping to 80 take 3-5 days max. 83 can take about a week itself or something since people could actually PK at level 80 and slowly work their way to 83 if they don't wanna rush it. PK is going to be shit for a while if not cuz everyone will be farming/exping.

3-5 days max of no lifing I would agree with.


However, 3-5 days where you do 2hours a day of exp? Nah. 1-80 should take a week at most if you nolife, 80-83 should take a week at most as well.

[razor]

3-5 days max of no lifing I would agree with.


However, 3-5 days where you do 2hours a day of exp? Nah. 1-80 should take a week at most if you nolife, 80-83 should take a week at most as well.

no! let people work for their 83 and rebirths or whatever!

148 skill point builds are op, there should be at least something that lets people feel special. that feeling of 'exclusivity' is that brings most people to these kind of mmos, the thought of having some item, some level, some title, some pk symbol or ANYTHING that others don't own.

its a bad idea to cut ways for people to feel 'important'.