Apex Forever | LIGHT-FARM | UNIQUE CONCEPT

[Vice]

lol, it's not for everyone morning you know? :P
it's kinda the perfect time in the middle.... Aussies can still play late at night, ppl from turkey obviously got the best time zone, and then idk where you guys live might have a lil worse timezone okey....

umm, it's not perfect for the CET people, 17:30 a lot of people are still working/barely got home from work at that time.

A time that would actually be good would be like 19:00/20:00 cet

[razor]

The launch time is pretty good.
It is the perfect time for turks (and we gotta admit, we need those mofos) and it's also a decent time for most western Europeans.
If you have to choose between perfect launch time for turks or for Americans, the choice is pretty simply if they want the server to last more than 30minutes.

But there's no need to choose between 2, when you could've had both sides pleased on a saturday.

Anyway, turks are the priority like you mention, they are the sole reason why KO is alive after all.

[MenInBlack]

But there's no need to choose between 2, when you could've had both sides pleased on a saturday.

Anyway, turks are the priority like you mention, they are the sole reason why KO is alive after all.

yea and like this other people will loose alot of time aswell, if you make it saturdaymorning for the americans then they have an advantage cause for aussies it's night or for west europeans early evening etc...
Like this other people will be mad....

it's always something imo.... :/

But turks do keep KO alive, that's true

[Teddy]

so... a month to get 83?
someone tell me this is a joke, so i can cancel this uninstall.

[razor]

so... a month to get 83?
someone tell me this is a joke, so i can cancel this uninstall.

Mind you, 80-83 is on a different league. 1-80 should be much quicker.

[MenInBlack]

yes 80 is way quicker, 83 is just hard and you gotta work for it, only 50% exp bonus and at 80+ you can't use exp flashes anymore so that means u can't go upto another 80% bonus.....

but 80 shouldn't be that hard... don't expect that u'll get everything in a day man, still a farm server.... and 83 gives some bonusses, so you gotta work for that...

you can pk at lvl 80 aswell

[Teddy]

yes 80 is way quicker, 83 is just hard and you gotta work for it, only 50% exp bonus and at 80+ you can't use exp flashes anymore so that means u can't go upto another 80% bonus.....

but 80 shouldn't be that hard... don't expect that u'll get everything in a day man, still a farm server.... and 83 gives some bonusses, so you gotta work for that...

you can pk at lvl 80 aswell

looking at this server from a solo perspective.

[ ] multi log in for mining & war chars
[ ] night merchanting
[ ] upgrading without spending $ on pus
[ ] gaming alternatives
[x] turkish tolerance 2.0
[x] affinity for lists

this is going to be one hell of a gearing process...

[SkyHunter]

I mean it's a server made to last, not made to go up for 1 month of excitement and fun and then go down.

[silentdj]

Reasoning for a Friday morning start? i no comprende

[bigdudle]

They are giving a perfect release time for the turkish community, which is the best choice they can do. There will never be a perfect release time for any timezone, but the one they have now is fine in my eyes. Without turks = server dead. Sure it's not the best for americans (actually isn't horrible for East coast), peruvians, or Canadians, but it'll do.

The only other thing they could do is a Saturday release which will give less days for people to no life it up.

[Manhattan]

I mean it's a server made to last, not made to go up for 1 month of excitement and fun and then go down.

That's the irony of it and when things gets really complicated. I'm not sure how hard it will be to level up but if it's as hard as I think it will, it won't last long at all. They are doing some dangerous moves here the latest one was to make scrolls only avaiable in PUS and that is very bad to any server. To make this work they really need to think it through and make exp easier and easier with time untill there's basically no exp needed for newcomers. Same goes for farming.

[SkyHunter]

That's the irony of it and when things gets really complicated. I'm not sure how hard it will be to level up but if it's as hard as I think it will, it won't last long at all. They are doing some dangerous moves here the latest one was to make scrolls only avaiable in PUS and that is very bad to any server. To make this work they really need to think it through and make exp easier and easier with time untill there's basically no exp needed for newcomers. Same goes for farming.

I feel like this server will only go down if the community lets it die. I've said it a lot of times and it will probably unfortunately happen. The two developers won't let this server die (aesteris and twostars, i dont think there's a third? developer, unless you count web devs which is like lel html is hard!!!1!!). The only way this server would go down is if the people from the community (KO4life, the turks, etc) will say "fuck this server" and stop playing. But unfortunately, I do feel like you're right. A lot of people will probably come onto this server, see it's a private server and think "Why would I bother investing time into this server if there's already a shard+9 or someone already has 10k NPs?". The only thing you can do is that this server is popular enough that other private servers simply cannot compete, and are thus forcing their population onto this server. I know a lot of cool developers (like lil dick rick), will be playing this server (even you manhattan, dunno about the rest of HRKO team), but when servers will continually pop up by random idiots, people will always flock to them in order to have the "first" whatever (despite it having no value on a server who has the population of 30 people).

But oh well, all we can do is hope and play the server, giving feedback and suggestions where necessary.

[bigdudle]

I do feel like swift potions and attack scrolls should be obtainable by sundries for a coin price or something at least. I don't feel as if everything should be PUS only regarding scrolls.
Hell, maybe even 150 AC/500 HP scrolls or something too at least.

I've saw so many good servers lose massive population or just die out cuz of small reasons that coulda been fixed in a matter of a few minutes.

Yes, this server is one of the most updated (if not the most updated) server out.

Yes, this server has 2 of the best devs in PSKO.

Yes, this server will most likely be populated as hell.

But that doesn't matter if small things are able to kill it (and trust me, it can.) Whats left of the KO community is basically turks and people who are impatient as fuck or get annoyed at the slightest things. My clan will have no issues with scrolls or exping, or anything for that matter. I'm speaking for the general population of the server. Those that won't donate or can't donate.

[Aesteris]

I do feel like swift potions and attack scrolls should be obtainable by sundries for a coin price or something at least. I don't feel as if everything should be PUS only regarding scrolls.
Hell, maybe even 150 AC/500 HP scrolls or something too at least.

I've saw so many good servers lose massive population or just die out cuz of small reasons that coulda been fixed in a matter of a few minutes.

Yes, this server is one of the most updated (if not the most updated) server out.

Yes, this server has 2 of the best devs in PSKO.

Yes, this server will most likely be populated as hell.

But that doesn't matter if small things are able to kill it (and trust me, it can.) Whats left of the KO community is basically turks and people who are impatient as fuck or get annoyed at the slightest things. My clan will have no issues with scrolls or exping, or anything for that matter. I'm speaking for the general population of the server. Those that won't donate or can't donate.

Best part which everyone seems to keep forgetting are the buffs available from the national enchanter, they scale with your level and are even free upto level 20 (probably going to change that to 35). With regards to PvP, Swift potions might be the only exception as that does (in our opinion) unbalance PK; but really with all the Apex Points as a reward and the low prices of the 'basic' scrolls I doubt there'll be a major shortage, and as I've said before - if there does end up being a shortage we will address the issue as soon as it arises (if it does)

As for the release date, there's no way we can please everyone - all of what everyone has said has a valid point, we as server owners need to carefully take risks and benefits into account to ensure you guys will get the most fun out of this server we can possibly provide you; There's a good reason why we haven't pushed out the server up until now, simply letting a release time deter people from even starting is stupid quite honestly. The decision wasn't made lightly and we're open to construct a mechanism to mitigate this supposedly huge gap in between users from North & South America vs. the rest.

I've personally thought of adding something you guys will probably be familiar with from other MMOs; Rested EXP - starting to tick from the moment the server is released, up to a maximum (higher maximum for the first days, being lowered afterwards as to give everyone a fair chance) which will double the EXP you get until used up completely. You won't even have to create a character as long as you have an account the rested EXP starts to accumulate. Instead of trying to force us to push the date back, something as simple as this seems like a good way to address the concern from our users on the North & South America continents. Honestly quite surprised no one has even proposed a similar solution to this.

Let me know your thoughts.

[razor]

Rested exp, that's rather clever actually o.O

I think that's a WoW thing right? I haven't played much WoW but shame on all of you who did and didn't think of this before T_T