KO-Tastic!

[StoneColdKillah]

difference is luca, shurt knew we were doing it before cause we told him and he said its fine.if the rule was enforced before we killed em, it would make sense but its just funny that we rape em, they rage and log gm chars and start tping us out and killing us.

[twostars]

Right... read up on what happened.

Let's get this straight; you abused a common bug, you were simply warned not to abuse it again (it's something that I have yet to get around to fixing, but taken for granted as a common bug [those weapons are intended to be used during the siege war only, that's even what its description states; "A key for the ladder truck. Siege War exclusive."]) and were thus teleported out. No harm, no foul.

You guys then proceeded to ignore the warning, come back, do it again - meanwhile personally attacking him, as you have done each and every time in the past.

It's just not on - you were warned, you disregarded that warning, you personally attacked staff members, and Parasitic muted the channel. Give me one good reason why you shouldn't have just been banned? You get let off way too easily.

If you don't like it, leave. Disagreeing with a warning is one thing, blatantly disregarding it and then attacking the staff member enforcing it is another. If you must, take it up with another staff member. There's absolutely no reason for any of what you guys did.

[silentdj]

Right... read up on what happened.

Let's get this straight; you abused a common bug, you were simply warned not to abuse it again (it's something that I have yet to get around to fixing, but taken for granted as a common bug [those weapons are intended to be used during the siege war only, that's even what its description states; "A key for the ladder truck. Siege War exclusive."]) and were thus teleported out. No harm, no foul.

You guys then proceeded to ignore the warning, come back, do it again - meanwhile personally attacking him, as you have done each and every time in the past.

It's just not on - you were warned, you disregarded that warning, you personally attacked staff members, and Parasitic muted the channel. Give me one good reason why you shouldn't have just been banned? You get let off way too easily.

If you don't like it, leave. Disagreeing with a warning is one thing, blatantly disregarding it and then attacking the staff member enforcing it is another. If you must, take it up with another staff member. There's absolutely no reason for any of what you guys did.

I didn't realise leaving a mage in the castle and teleporting players was illegal and i also didn't know that is considered a "Seige War Exclusive" lol, you guys are bending every single rule in this server to suit a few people who have gm chars, you guys are taking it way to far now, its fucking disgusting

[twostars]

I didn't realise leaving a mage in the castle and teleporting players was illegal and i also didn't know that is considered a "Seige War Exclusive" lol, you guys are bending every single rule in this server to suit a few people who have gm chars, you guys are taking it way to far now

The way I read it, the ladder keys were being used to get in? As per the previous posts, anyway.

[StoneColdKillah]

Right... read up on what happened.

Let's get this straight; you abused a common bug, you were simply warned not to abuse it again (it's something that I have yet to get around to fixing, but taken for granted as a common bug [those weapons are intended to be used during the siege war only, that's even what its description states; "A key for the ladder truck. Siege War exclusive."]) and were thus teleported out. No harm, no foul.

You guys then proceeded to ignore the warning, come back, do it again - meanwhile personally attacking him, as you have done each and every time in the past.

It's just not on - you were warned, you disregarded that warning, you personally attacked staff members, and Parasitic muted the channel. Give me one good reason why you shouldn't have just been banned? You get let off way too easily.

If you don't like it, leave. Disagreeing with a warning is one thing, blatantly disregarding it and then attacking the staff member enforcing it is another. If you must, take it up with another staff member. There's absolutely no reason for any of what you guys did.

obviously u guys need to get ur facts straight cause ur OWNER SHURT told us its fine when to use ladder cause we told him 2 days ago. ask him before u come here 2 days later and call it a bug. also u might wanna check ur logs, hotblooded was logged off at isi from earlier and when he logged in on the isi floor, parasitic proceeded to tp him out of delos and then KILL him. thats also bugging? we cant relog in delos either?

maybe u should make up rules before hand and not when ur " gm clan " gets affected by them. now before u reply to me, make sure u talk to shurt about what he said.

[silentdj]

The way I read it, the ladder keys were being used to get in? As per the previous posts, anyway.

Even though i don't consider that a bug, i did not use a ladder key to get over i logged in on the floor, we also leave mages on the castle, are you actually going to say teleporting players across the desert is a bug now?

[Luca]

oh ye rofl i forgot about the inscription
there is ur rule nik..
well u had mad fun though jeff i envy u

[twostars]

Even though i don't consider that a bug, i did not use a ladder key to get over i logged in on the floor, we also leave mages on the castle, are you actually going to say teleporting players across the desert is a bug now?

No, I didn't say that.

obviously u guys need to get ur facts straight cause ur OWNER SHURT told us its fine when to use ladder cause we told him 2 days ago. ask him before u come here 2 days later and call it a bug.

Okay, look. Clearly you're missing the entire point here-

Shurt said it was ok, because it's a common bug that will be fixed ultimately. That's the day I was asked to put it on my list, because it IS a bug. Read the description, I quoted it above.

Parasitic simply warned you. He didn't ban you straight off, he warned you for the same reason - it's a common bug, that will be fixed eventually.

The warning was for (ab)using the ladder truck key. Not for mages, or anything like that. Just the ladder truck key. Obviously not going to ban for it or anything like that, because it's an extremely common and minor issue. Fact remains though, it is a bug - you were warned for abusing it. A warning isn't a ban, it is merely there to explain to you that you shouldn't be doing it, so you don't.

Instead of taking it as it was, and possibly consulting with Shurt or another GM later, you just ignored him, did it again, and personally attacked him. Honestly, it's getting old. Muting the channel was simply because of that. I'm extremely surprised he didn't see fit to ban you all for it, we're all getting quite sick of it and hence, much less forgiving.

Perhaps if you didn't see fit to personally attack each and every one of us because you ignore our warnings, we wouldn't be so harsh on you every single time you do ignore them.

You were warned. You ignored the warning. You continued to personally attack staff. Give me one good reason why you shouldn't be banned right now, despite the fact that you somehow still aren't, even after all that drama.

There's really nothing else to say on the issue.

[StoneColdKillah]

No, I didn't say that.


Okay, look. Clearly you're missing the entire point here-

Shurt said it was ok, because it's a common bug that will be fixed ultimately. That's the day I was asked to put it on my list, because it IS a bug. Read the description, I quoted it above.

Parasitic simply warned you. He didn't ban you straight off, he warned you for the same reason - it's a common bug, that will be fixed eventually.

The warning was for (ab)using the ladder truck key. Not for mages, or anything like that. Just the ladder truck key. Obviously not going to ban for it or anything like that, because it's an extremely common and minor issue. Fact remains though, it is a bug - you were warned for abusing it. A warning isn't a ban, it is merely there to explain to you that you shouldn't be doing it, so you don't.

Instead of taking it as it was, and possibly consulting with Shurt or another GM later, you just ignored him, did it again, and personally attacked him. Honestly, it's getting old. Muting the channel was simply because of that. I'm extremely surprised he didn't see fit to ban you all for it, we're all getting quite sick of it and hence, much less forgiving.

Perhaps if you didn't see fit to personally attack each and every one of us because you ignore our warnings, we wouldn't be so harsh on you every single time you do ignore them.

You were warned. You ignored the warning. You continued to personally attack staff. Give me one good reason why you shouldn't be banned right now, despite the fact that you somehow still aren't, even after all that drama.

There's really nothing else to say on the issue.

obviously u didnt consult with ur buddy parasitic before making that post....he didnt just warn us for ladder key, he warned us for mages aswell. also at the time he was tping us out. we did use a mage. were not stupid enough to spend 3mil every single time

[silentdj]

No, I didn't say that.


Okay, look. Clearly you're missing the entire point here-

Shurt said it was ok, because it's a common bug that will be fixed ultimately. That's the day I was asked to put it on my list, because it IS a bug. Read the description, I quoted it above.

Parasitic simply warned you. He didn't ban you straight off, he warned you for the same reason - it's a common bug, that will be fixed eventually.

The warning was for (ab)using the ladder truck key. Not for mages, or anything like that. Just the ladder truck key. Obviously not going to ban for it or anything like that, because it's an extremely common and minor issue. Fact remains though, it is a bug - you were warned for abusing it. A warning isn't a ban, it is merely there to explain to you that you shouldn't be doing it, so you don't.

Instead of taking it as it was, and possibly consulting with Shurt or another GM later, you just ignored him, did it again, and personally attacked him. Honestly, it's getting old. Muting the channel was simply because of that. I'm extremely surprised he didn't see fit to ban you all for it, we're all getting quite sick of it and hence, much less forgiving.

Perhaps if you didn't see fit to personally attack each and every one of us because you ignore our warnings, we wouldn't be so harsh on you every single time you do ignore them.

You were warned. You ignored the warning. You continued to personally attack staff. Give me one good reason why you shouldn't be banned right now, despite the fact that you somehow still aren't, even after all that drama.

There's really nothing else to say on the issue.

You wonder why we complain so much? every time we do something that does not benefit another clan on the server ie. killing isiloon legitly, you guys come up with another bs bug that has never ever been fixed on any ko server to my knowledge, we aren't even using ladder truck keys anymore.

It's kind of sad that your hoping to launch NDKO and you guys really aren't doing a good job at running the community, shurt as an exception. Parasitic and schrotti are playing in game and obviously will make you fix the bugs they want you too. (thats how it looks on our end anyway) any bug that does not benefit there clan seems to be getting fixed.

I re-logged into abyss from the previous time, got tp'd to delos by gm and slayed because you guys assumed i used a ladder truck to get over.

ps. once again banned from irc w/o doing anything? you understand how we get annoyed when the guys running the server do shit like that

[twostars]

obviously u didnt consult with ur buddy parasitic before making that post....he didnt just warn us for ladder key, he warned us for mages aswell. also at the time he was tping us out. we did use a mage. were not stupid enough to spend 3mil every single time

My point, however, remains. The proper course of action would have been to consult another staff member, instead, you personally attacked the staff member that merely warned you in the first place (an action which you have too many times to count in the past), AND blatantly disregarded his warning.

Regardless of the warning itself, your repeated attitude towards staff and blatantly ignoring staff warnings is cause enough for actual action to be taken, IMHO. It's gone on far too long, so I guarantee you, the next time you even slightly disrespect a staff member, you (and by you, I mean any of the repeat offenders here) will be permanently banned. Consider this one official warning you shouldn't ignore.

If you're going to act like a child, expect to be treated like one. And, honestly, I'm not even sure why you're still complaining about it; you weren't banned, or anything like that. You were given a warning, and teleported out. Not a lot to complain about hours later...

PS: HotBloodedKilla was banned from IRC because it was effectively ban evasion (granted, not your fault).

Parasitic and schrotti are playing in game and obviously will make you fix the bugs they want you too. (thats how it looks on our end anyway) any bug that does not benefit there clan seems to be getting fixed.

I can assure you, this isn't the reason bugs haven't been fixed yet. I've been rather busy working on other projects while there's been a lull in exploit activity on KO-Tastic.

I re-logged into abyss from the previous time, got tp'd to delos and slayed because you guys assumed i used a ladder truck to get over.

I don't know, I wasn't there. If that's true, then I apologise for the action that was taken at that time to you. However, it's no reason to disrespect staff. Treat people how you wish to be treated yourself.

[tHeUnBeAtAbLe]

2stars, I respect you as a developer, but don't try to act like you've actually played the game for years. You might know your codes and stuff, but having actual game on experience, highly doubt it.

Ladder trucks have always been used to get across the walls when the doors were closed. Never has it been a banable offense.

Winning the CSW and doing Isiloon (which apparently by your rules only the CSW holders can do) are 2 whole different things.

I'll just tell you, from my latest USKO personal experience, which was Ionia... I ran the 2 top clans on the server, yet we weren't able to take the CSW due to Turk cheaters... however we were the ones killing Isi/Felankor.

Anyways, hopefully you see my point... but fact is, no ladder trucks is not a banable offense.

@Luca

You're Miracle clan on Ionia was the one that tried to "teach me" how they won the CSW. After constantly cursing at all of them after the CSW was over, as they won it by cheating, 1 of the assitants decided to show me that they were "legit". He showed me that they TP'd each other on a specific spot beside the crystal where they could spam NOVAs, and not getting attack by melees, except ranged attacks... and they said they won by being "legit".

Now you tell me... if someone wins CSWs like that... fuck that, they certainly don't deserve to take Isiloon and Felankor automatically. This was the way USKO worked, and that's how it is... Ladder Trucks were allowed to be used for you to cross the wall.

[twostars]

2stars, I respect you as a developer, but don't try to act like you've actually played the game for years. You might know your codes and stuff, but having actual game on experience, highly doubt it.

Ladder trucks have always been used to get across the walls when the doors were closed. Never has it been a banable offense.

Anyways, hopefully you see my point... but fact is, no ladder trucks is not a banable offense.

I never once said it was. Nobody was banned, they were warned and teleported out. We recognise that it's a common bug that's rarely been addressed. It's not really worth it, but see here for the current official description of the item, however: King of Knight - Ladder Truck Key

And I repeat/quote:

*A key for the ladder truck.
Siege War exclusive.*

USKO may not have fixed it, but that's what their item states and that's how it's supposed to be used, despite how it has been used for eternity. This is a private server, not USKO. We actually want to make things work the way they're supposed to work, not "fix" them by "disabling them" as USKO sees fit to do.

[silentdj]

My point, however, remains. The proper course of action would have been to consult another staff member, instead, you personally attacked the staff member that merely warned you in the first place (an action which you have too many times to count in the past), AND blatantly disregarded his warning.

Regardless of the warning itself, your repeated attitude towards staff and blatantly ignoring staff warnings is cause enough for actual action to be taken, IMHO. It's gone on far too long, so I guarantee you, the next time you even slightly disrespect a staff member, you (and by you, I mean any of the repeat offenders here) will be permanently banned. Consider this one official warning you shouldn't ignore.

If you're going to act like a child, expect to be treated like one. And, honestly, I'm not even sure why you're still complaining about it; you weren't banned, or anything like that. You were given a warning, and teleported out. Not a lot to complain about hours later...

PS: HotBloodedKilla was banned from IRC because it was effectively ban evasion (granted, not your fault).

I can assure you, this isn't the reason bugs haven't been fixed yet. I've been rather busy working on other projects while there's been a lull in exploit activity on KO-Tastic.


I don't know, I wasn't there. If that's true, then I apologise for the action that was taken at that time to you. However, it's no reason to disrespect staff. Treat people how you wish to be treated yourself.

So you guys stop us from killing isiloon (teleporting me out of abyss for no reason) then slay me, then you really actually expect us not to complain or say something? Seriously, re-think this hole situation and take away Parasitics GM powers already, obviously he shouldn't have it if hes playing in a clan and should be made to choose GM or PLAYER, if you can't see that its colliding with his agenda then that shit is messed up


PS- shut up about the ladder truck already, we didn't use it, we don't need to use it, fix it all you want.

[StoneColdKillah]

My point, however, remains. The proper course of action would have been to consult another staff member, instead, you personally attacked the staff member that merely warned you in the first place (an action which you have too many times to count in the past), AND blatantly disregarded his warning.

Regardless of the warning itself, your repeated attitude towards staff and blatantly ignoring staff warnings is cause enough for actual action to be taken, IMHO. It's gone on far too long, so I guarantee you, the next time you even slightly disrespect a staff member, you (and by you, I mean any of the repeat offenders here) will be permanently banned. Consider this one official warning you shouldn't ignore.

If you're going to act like a child, expect to be treated like one. And, honestly, I'm not even sure why you're still complaining about it; you weren't banned, or anything like that. You were given a warning, and teleported out. Not a lot to complain about hours later...

PS: HotBloodedKilla was banned from IRC because it was effectively ban evasion (granted, not your fault).

I can assure you, this isn't the reason bugs haven't been fixed yet. I've been rather busy working on other projects while there's been a lull in exploit activity on KO-Tastic.


I don't know, I wasn't there. If that's true, then I apologise for the action that was taken at that time to you. However, it's no reason to disrespect staff. Treat people how you wish to be treated yourself.

sorry bud. cant follow proper procedure due to being banned on irc/forums. on top we didnt just start arguing, the posts were made right after it happend. i dont think its our fault at all. either its parasitics fault, or shurts fault and u can pick. now u tell me that if 2 days ago shurt says its ok to use ladder trucks. what would u do? and this does not mean that we used em, weve actually had mages inside that tp us everytime since last week. why didnt ur " professional" staff member listen to us and consult with the owner of the server before placing unfair warnings on us? why did he tp hotblooded out of delos and then kill him after he saw him log in? im sorry but we cant tell what u guys call "bugs" and whats not "bugs" cause u gms tell us different things everytime. pick who was right or wrong, parasitic or shurt.... go ahead and tell us who to believe next time..

also "professional" gms dont run around killing isiloon soldiers for there clan. or let me guess.. thats ok too?

all i care about is being treated fairly thats all. if u told me the rules before hand, thats fine. but its just fuked up that as soon as we killed em, he just logged his gm char and that was the first time that we found out about this new rule that was apparently made before hand..