Ardream sin MD+8 vs CHD +7

[KOnewb1984]

Would like to know which i should go for?

Offhand of course..

[MyDestiny]

CHD no doubts.

[UbiQuitousCZ]

md+8 no doubts if you are comparing md+8 vs chd+7
but dont forget Dark Vane +7 is better offhand than md+8/chd+7

whats your main hand gun? MD+8? Shard+8? if one of these, good choice

[zecabr]

i'd go for chd aswell since the diff between md8 and chd7 as offhand isnt that big and u'll need that resist, and i wouldnt use DV in ard.

[MyDestiny]

md+8 no doubts if you are comparing md+8 vs chd+7
but dont forget Dark Vane +7 is better offhand than md+8/chd+7

whats your main hand gun? MD+8? Shard+8? if one of these, good choice

In DCZ??? Fuk the wut are you talking about lolz?

On off hand you don't need dagger with crazy ap coz it doesn't add same ap as on main hand.

CHD offers you everything you need as DCZ rogue, ap, dex and 0 hp/mp lose.

[KOnewb1984]

md+8 no doubts if you are comparing md+8 vs chd+7
but dont forget Dark Vane +7 is better offhand than md+8/chd+7

whats your main hand gun? MD+8? Shard+8? if one of these, good choice

Shard +8 in main hand

and DV takes away to much hp/mana in ardream i think

In DCZ??? Fuk the wut are you talking about lolz?

On off hand you don't need dagger with crazy ap coz it doesn't add same ap as on main hand.

CHD offers you everything you need as DCZ rogue, ap, dex and 0 hp/mp lose.

but u do lose hp/mana with chd but far lower than dv

[MyDestiny]

Ya I wanted to write resis idk why I came up with that. And it's not the same hp mp lose like in dv

[UbiQuitousCZ]

if you are playing EUKO Ardream, the best option is MD+8 because you can use only old accessories and your stats will be low
if you are playing USKO Ardream, where you can have +1/+3 accessories, the best option is DV+7

personaly i dont understand why are people using CHD instead of DV... CHD is just weak and its weaker with your higher level
for example, 83lvl sin, same gear, DV+7 = 2337ap, 6460hp // CHD+7 = 2315ap, 6487hp

in DCZ cold mages will cold you no matter if you have + or - 14 cold resist, light mages are joke and the only dangerous are flame mages = mostly easy targets
Dark Vane is just great, no matter what level you are
but do what you want, its my opinion you dont need to care about it, its your char

[dr4zen]

if you're talking about euko, md+8 is very very cheap, so you can even go for md+9, and as UbiQuitousCZ stated, CHD has very low ap... go for sherion or dv instead of it...

[MyDestiny]

Last time I checked prices on EUKO md and CHD were almost the same. And the diff between them doesn't matter much coz the chd's bonuses cover it.

And if you are saying -14 resis is nothing, then why wouldn't he use dual eme and Amy of dex and foverins..?

You should maximize your resis with every item that is good for ya, and CHD is just perfect.

Also not every1 have +1/2/3 uniques and a normal sin hp is like 1600, so if you'll use dv with that low hp (forgot to mention the mp which is like 2k and will be less then a soul pot) you'll get pwnt.

In DCZ CHD is the best off-hand dagger you can get.

[UbiQuitousCZ]

Last time I checked prices on EUKO md and CHD were almost the same. And the diff between them doesn't matter much coz the chd's bonuses cover it.

what CHD´s bonuses are you talking about?
dex? still with MD+8 your ap will be higher
5 club def? wtf?
negative hp bonus? wtf?
14 resist? i told my opionon about them in DCZ

And if you are saying -14 resis is nothing, then why wouldn't he use dual eme and Amy of dex and foverins..?

You should maximize your resis with every item that is good for ya, and CHD is just perfect.

Also not every1 have +1/2/3 uniques and a normal sin hp is like 1600, so if you'll use dv with that low hp (forgot to mention the mp which is like 2k and will be less then a soul pot) you'll get pwnt.

whats wrong with dual eme?
amy of dex? you must be joking, wp,pp,in is the way
foverins? i cant imagine other rings than rols

In DCZ CHD is the best off-hand dagger you can get.

again, no it isnt

[MyDestiny]

What's wrong? Your resis will be like 10 and towers and mages would buttrape you.

You are forgetting that it's off hand, which doesnt add the same ap, if it was main hand then ofc it was a big diff but it's not.

And yeah 7 dex 14 resis and 5 club def are worth losing that 10 ap.

[ExclusiveBastard]

i would go for CHD+7 for sure, not only cause it gives some extra resist but also cause its a perfect off hand dagger in sincombo (Vsing etc) and i dont like mirage dagger at all

[brutalsnake]

CHD is way better then DV, lower hp drain, resists, club deff, and GREAT elem damage

btw tried dual shard+8 and shard+8 + dv+8 in rlb, no dmg difference, just lost mana and hp

[KomandoStyle]

chd +7 is better for low levels