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Avedon +9 vs HB +9

This is a discussion on Avedon +9 vs HB +9 within the Class Questions and Tips forums, part of the Game Questions & Tips category; the weapons defense thing is bs do u think all ppl is wearing it? dont u think if any1 want ...
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    the weapons defense thing is bs do u think all ppl is wearing it? dont u think if any1 want axe defense will just make a talia or get a chitin 1 from mss same as club or sword defenses.
    comboing is same as both weap have same speed and same range.

    70 elemental > 3 ap all way

    250 hp is 1 or 2 r hit and... 250 mp is no even 1 hell blade more so dont say the hp mp helps

    and killer i doubt scream/legcut works 8 / 10 time whit avedon like u said in ur selling post...it dosnt matter which weap u have is just a skill whit a % to success u can have luck and succes a lot or unluck and never work or u can tbl like some bedrloans (or something) clan which have 100 % stun shock / scream and also far atak ^^

    and for the guy that asked there +8 hb is better than +8 avedon
    also this dont make it better but is a plus dont need to much str to use it.

    ps. as andy said no need spend $ to test if u want test just run a private server and test it
    ps2. killer u said me once u tested rof on hb and u said it does more damage so is a plus for the HB ^^[/b]
    Before 1.5 year i had tested dual rofs+3 with hb and i realised that there was no difference at dmg from the elemental bonus.
    i dont know if k2 changed it now but i think they had no reason to do this :P

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    Before 1.5 year i had tested dual rofs+3 with hb and i realised that there was no difference at dmg from the elemental bonus.
    i dont know if k2 changed it now but i think they had no reason to do this :P[/b]
    I think there is nothing ingame what u not tested Gio (tests from ubergeared view) :lol:

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    haha no diference since both have same range.....

    now lets go to old servers like diez
    cz = gangs 2 - 3 party togheter vs 2 -3 partys all time so...
    do u think put an club fp defense will work on this servers when u have 4-5+ warriors whit diferents weapons on u? u`ll get hit less by ii/hb users and a lot more from the others players.......
    so hb > avedon again just make a quick check in kok and see gg`s priest u`ll see only dd25 that mean they usually no use defenses just hp armors + shield and dd25.
    also older server there is a looot of cs where hb is good also over avedon.

    i personally have skeleton belt and i no care about avedon+8 or giga+8 users but hb+8 ppl hit me way more hard.
    and... well no talk about the new baal axe freaking good axe ^_^[/b]
    bullshit..dd is now the less used weapon defense by every priest...just go make the check for urself and you&#39;ll see that the true GG priest use EVERY weapon defence available at all times..and fact is there is WAY more axe defense than club defense but theres also no axe defense on skele or no club defense on shields like dread so i wold say its pretty balanced so i wouldnt count on weapon defenses to compare weapons like these...its stupid everyone has different so cant compare...Just look at the bonuses tbh from bonuses view avedon is better but if you want keep being ignorant and comparing what weaopn is better because of weaopn defense then go ahead and keep being blinded

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    and fact is there is WAY more axe defense than club defense but theres also no axe defense on skele or no club defense on shields like dread so i wold say its pretty balanced so i wouldnt count on weapon defenses to compare weapons like these...its stupid everyone has different so cant compare...Just look at the bonuses tbh from bonuses view avedon is better but if you want keep being ignorant and comparing what weaopn is better because of weaopn defense then go ahead and keep being blinded [/b]
    good point the dread shield one cuz every priest who burn the personal and no rich for buy gabs is going for dread also rlb n adreamers r using dreads shields.
    but..true question is which weap is better no wich weap there is less wd...

    and about priests no DD thing as u said i dont think so:i did a fast check at tops ladder this month in diez:

    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...=kartal19031984
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...=___AMONISIS___
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...e=Bibiibobobubu
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...amp;name=lal_tr
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...amp;name=MeIody
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...name=h3LLmasteR
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...mp;name=_Zesta_
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...mp;name=lJaRrEl

    as i can see all have dd25 on ---> that mean the scan got em whit dd25 ---> could be a concidence or could be they use a lot the dd25

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    good point the dread shield one cuz every priest who burn the personal and no rich for buy gabs is going for dread also rlb n adreamers r using dreads shields.
    but..true question is which weap is better no wich weap there is less wd...

    and about priests no DD thing as u said i dont think so:i did a fast check at tops ladder this month in diez:

    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...=kartal19031984
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...=___AMONISIS___
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...e=Bibiibobobubu
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...amp;name=lal_tr
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...amp;name=MeIody
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...name=h3LLmasteR
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...mp;name=_Zesta_
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...mp;name=lJaRrEl

    as i can see all have dd25 on ---> that mean the scan got em whit dd25 ---> could be a concidence or could be they use a lot the dd25 [/b]
    Doesnt KoK update too often now and erase what someone previously has worn recently? And alot of people dont own a helmet at high levels ^^ they just constantly wear DD helm

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    na no delete so fast look at mine
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...&name=Razex
    4 weaps
    its get deleted when long time no see which is good cuz ppl can sell trade etc.

    ps. dont ask what i was doing sitting whit dd on

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    250 hp/mp could be the difference of dying by log :P Id go with Avedon

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    good point the dread shield one cuz every priest who burn the personal and no rich for buy gabs is going for dread also rlb n adreamers r using dreads shields.
    but..true question is which weap is better no wich weap there is less wd...

    and about priests no DD thing as u said i dont think so:i did a fast check at tops ladder this month in diez:

    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...=kartal19031984
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...=___AMONISIS___
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...e=Bibiibobobubu
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...amp;name=lal_tr
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...amp;name=MeIody
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...name=h3LLmasteR
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...mp;name=_Zesta_
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...mp;name=lJaRrEl

    as i can see all have dd25 on ---> that mean the scan got em whit dd25 ---> could be a concidence or could be they use a lot the dd25 [/b]
    of these 8 priests you posted...i know 5 of em personally and i can tell you for sure they do not wear dd all the time only on an extreme situation theres man rogues around...and yeah i own one of those priests and ill tell you that dd is used maybe once a week xD so yeah dd is basically a useless weapon defense now considering warriors and their crazy ap and items now

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    Well since half those priests are also geared out the fucking arse they don&#39;t need DD all the time :P

    Not to mention orc rogues are well geared compared to human rogues

    J3Toni problems only human one who&#39;s baba&#39;d out ass. I could think of plenty of orcs rogues who hit hard as hell :/

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    there are just as geared humans as there are orcs.. how do you not that human rogues dont hit hard?

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    there are just as geared humans as there are orcs.. how do you not that human rogues dont hit hard?[/b]
    arena?
    but is true hawing lwl 80+ whit good gear a rogue isnt a trouble but all priests arent 80 and very well geared

    but we going off topic


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    As a lvl 80 warrior on Ares, with having both at +8, it really depends on your build, if you are hp build go with HB, and STR build go with Ave, Thats in my opinion of course...

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    at 9 avedon does more most of the time

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    good point the dread shield one cuz every priest who burn the personal and no rich for buy gabs is going for dread also rlb n adreamers r using dreads shields.
    but..true question is which weap is better no wich weap there is less wd...

    and about priests no DD thing as u said i dont think so:i did a fast check at tops ladder this month in diez:

    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...=kartal19031984
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...=___AMONISIS___
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...e=Bibiibobobubu
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...amp;name=lal_tr
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...amp;name=MeIody
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...name=h3LLmasteR
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...mp;name=_Zesta_
    http://www.kingofknight.com/playerinfo.php...mp;name=lJaRrEl

    as i can see all have dd25 on ---> that mean the scan got em whit dd25 ---> could be a concidence or could be they use a lot the dd25 [/b]
    notice how many have axe defence compared to club charlie? ey? ey? eyyyyy?
    and regardless the weapon defence thing is pretty much ignored coz even with a skelly belt on the hb will still hit as hard as the avedon, most of its damage comes from the elemental and so is ignored by weapon defence ^_^

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    double post is lame

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