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    Building an archer, wat should i go for? :

    EE+7
    EB+8
    IB+8

    oppinions plz

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    zone?

    asdfsadf

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    forgot that sry, will be playing RLB

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    if ur going tankbuild should pick up ee+7 ( for hp,mp sword deff + resist ) , for ap build rather take ib +8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrocii View Post
    Building an archer, wat should i go for? :

    EE+7
    EB+8
    IB+8

    oppinions plz
    dont take the EB+8... much overpriced!

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    take a helenid +3rb

    i have tried the following for dcz and rlb:
    ib +8
    eb +8
    ee +7
    helenid +3rb

    helenid is the best if u can afford to play with weapon enchants. if u cant get a eb +8 its alot better then ib +8

    but anyway helenid is best. People saying its combo sux can suck ma balls cause i can combo at the same speed maybe even faster with helenid then with ib.

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    EB+8 for sure

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    enion for best average dmg + higher 5+3 combo dmg
    ee for tanking more
    helenid +WES for raw ap and good 5+3combo dmg and lack of money - but higher chance to fail an hit/hits.
    ib for raw ap and lack of money


    Helenid can hit the hardest but at the same time u have the highest rate of failing the hit. Dunno why but it's so. Btw it's pretty cheap.
    EE is a mix of enion-scorpion and ib. it has a nice high ap and cool bonus. Deffo the best bow to use in ardream since 59 lvls lack of hp and resists. If u plan to play a balanced and tanker archer that's your bow.
    IB is the cheapest one.
    Enion can be expensive and/or overpriced but 1) got the highest elem. dmg that means highest dmg done using arrows shower skill or multiple shot. 2) for some reason its average dmg is the best; you probably wont hit the hardest but u'll see almost all dmgs close to the highest one and less failed hits.
    Last edited by inarco; 01-31-2011 at 11:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inarco View Post
    helenid +WES for raw ap and good 5+3combo dmg and lack of money - but higher chance to fail an hit/hits.

    Helenid can hit the hardest but at the same time u have the highest rate of failing the hit. Dunno why but it's so.
    Would a skele belt with it's 50% bonus chance to hit solve this problem? I normally pk with a skele belt for ardy anyway.

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    uhum. Helenid is not cheap in c-west. Seeing that the combo isnt different and i havent failed a single hit with it soo far. So the fail rate definitly isnt higher then with any other bow.

    maybe its different on human side dunno bout that

    and helenids are becoming very very rare on c-west.

    in my opinion if u can afford to play with wes then helenid is ur bow any time. And in rlb the ice damage helps ur ice shot too.

    just saw the post above me and i do play with a skelly in ardream and i dont seem to fail any hits. Dunno if that has to do with skelly.

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    On Ares right now

    Helenid 10-11.5gb
    Enion 9-9.5gb
    Iron 7gb
    EE7 5gb

    No idea in GB about EE8.

    So I am thinking that a Helenid is not the worst bow or the cheapest.

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    Iron Bow +8 for sure

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    lolz every1 who says anything else then helenid has either not used it before or does not use a weapon enchant scroll or just has a too bad pc to get the most out of its combo.

    helenid ftw all zones

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    I'lll put it clear once for all.
    WHen u're going after a bow/crossbow you have to consider few things:

    1) its price and if it will influence badly your money
    2) subjective playing style

    1a] If cash is a problem, u can think of buying a cheaper bow and then spending the rest trying to increasing your armor/jewels.
    After that, check which choice will give u a better benefit.

    1b] If cash is not a problem go simply after the bow/crssbow u think to be more usefull for you.

    2) The choice of certain bow should match your playing style.
    For example, if you are fully focused on dmg then go after smthing that will give u a max ap like Exceptional Ironbows, Helenid+WES.

    If you would like to play a more balanced setup, probably an EE would be the best choice.

    Other players are more oriented in the philosophy that having often a pretty high average dmg is better than having the chance to do highest dmgs but less often ( "rarelY ") .

    Now keep in mind all bows/crossbows got a quite big fork of damages and basicly no matter the skill u use.Therefore doing tests and understanding their results wont be an easy task.
    Now, let's suppose your max dmg done using a certain skill is 2000.
    I call a critic hit an hit that's closed to the max dmg: smthing like 1900+
    An average hit would be in the fork 1600-1800
    A failed hit will be an hit from 1000-1400
    A missed hit is an hit like 99-100

    An enion bow seems to have (for some reasons) a better chance to do quite often average hits.
    It will do critics less often.

    Few say cuz it's a unique others cuz it has more elem dmg..others say it's bullsht1t.
    In my opinion it's becouse it has high elem.dmg.
    Now it's pretty normal thinking of helenid. Same elem dmg of enion and higher ap and chance to use WES too.

    I got the chance of testing them all at various + (rebirthed + included).
    And from what i've seen Helenid tends to do a fail hit more often.
    Especially against an high ac target.
    Don't tell me why..but it's so.

    On the other hand, if u think of a duffed target an helenid should have more chances to 1 hit him since its higher critic dmg.

    About me i ended pking both with enion and helenid but tbh my 1st choice is still the enion.

    EaglesEye at + 8 start to be a really good bow but i still preferred the enion.

    Other than that guys it's just a personal preference.
    Eachone got his ideas, i got mine and supported by my tests. I'm not saying you have to buy an enion or an helenid ; i'm just trying to give more info according to my experience.

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    not gonna take helenid.. hate using crossbow
    guess im gonna get an EB +8 temporary untill i can affort an EE +8

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