This is a discussion on Bow damage & mechanics? within the Class Questions and Tips forums, part of the Game Questions & Tips category; Originally Posted by SheldonCooper
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@razor didn't they fixed the weapon enchants working with bows and crossbows? Last time i remember I know that bows didn't get boost on enchant but now they do, so the difference is in crossbow and bow? bow gets less boost and cross bow gets boost similar to a warrior if wielding a 2h weapon? I remember times when bows got 1 ap increase with enchant ye xD If cross bow gets really the drastical boost the choice is clear go for helenid 7 also has 90 elemental damage and on usko tanking combo seems a bit smoother with the crossbow.
@razor Weapon enchant scroll makes it 126 (it adds up 5).
@sheldon Yes it still applies only to crossbows
You are amazing guys haha. really appreciate the help and advices.
The only problem is find a helenid in hellsgarem xD
That's the problem with new servers, there are no Horn Crossbows at higher +. Back in the days every archer had a +8 Horn Xbow as a starting gun, +9 has 122AP which is even better than Helenid and it was fairly cheap to upgrade
to make it a +9 it's still quite expensive you know, you need a lot of BUSes spent since it's middle class item, becoming high class at +7. And +9 ain't that easy to say, it's based on a lot of luck. So it can easily happen that you will spend a lot of gbs trying to make a +9 hornxbow yourself while you could spend that money into helenid+7, -> hornxbow+9 122 ap / 90 poison elemental ;; helenid+7 121 AP 90 ice elemental so you see there XD it's not worth going for hornx and lose time on it, the new usko version has bifrost gems all over so it's not that hard to get some helenids even on a new server.
Yeah I was talking about old servers, you could just grab fistful of +8s for 20m each, throw them on anvil and eventually make one +9
I have similar question so I won't create new topic, hope it is ok for you.
I am thinking what weapon to choose. Actually I can choose between Restriceted diet windforce +8, helenid +8, ee +8, eventually ib +9.
I want to play only CZ (so don't consider ardreams or rlb)
Because Iron bow +9 has 141 ap (+90 poison) and Windforce +8 has 137 ap and 16 dex bonus, I believe that attack power will be better. In addition there is a curse. Unfortunately it has -70 def but it is acceptable.
Next weapon in consideration is Helenid +8 - I easily don't know how much ap will add enchant scroll. Will it beat windforce +8 or not?
So .. what is your opinion? I would choose windforce but I am not sure.
Windforce beats all of those bows ap wise. Barely beats IB though.
It's not even a fair comparison, cursed weapons +8 get compared with regular / unique weapons +9. +8 vs a +8 cursed will almost always win.
Ok thank you guys.
People used to hate on crossbows because it was "felt" that it missed too often, and the increase in AP meant nothing if you were triggering elemental damage all the time. It was believed that crossbows had higher crits but higher miss rate. The thing is, most data sets that i saw posted on this were usually 1 exp session at uruk trons so its not really statistical.
Regardless of that, as others said, if you're looking for cheap AP, then xbows are the way to go, because the other top AP bows are the Windforce and the azaghai, and those arent cheap.