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ELYSIUM+8 vs UNDEFEATABLE FAUN+7

This is a discussion on ELYSIUM+8 vs UNDEFEATABLE FAUN+7 within the Class Questions and Tips forums, part of the Game Questions & Tips category; ELYSIUM has 1 less AP, less LR element, MUCH less GR element, SAME INT, SAME LR RESIST.. \ undefeatable faun ...
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    ELYSIUM has 1 less AP, less LR element, MUCH less GR element, SAME INT, SAME LR RESIST..
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    undefeatable faun =-70 ac...

    thoughts?

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    ELYSIUM has 1 less AP, less LR element, MUCH less GR element, SAME INT, SAME LR RESIST..
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    undefeatable faun =-70 ac...

    thoughts?[/b]
    Elysium, duh.

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    i really wanna see someoen actually test this stuff

    ps. 1000th post ftw

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    umm elysium all the way cept u don't need int to use faun D:

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    High ap, high element, has ice AND light.. Full dmg from Dual novas anyone??? And easy requirements. -70 Ac, big deal, I would take this sacrifice in a heartbeat for this pwnage staff..

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    High ap, high element, has ice AND light.. Full dmg from Dual novas anyone??? And easy requirements. -70 Ac, big deal, I would take this sacrifice in a heartbeat for this pwnage staff..[/b]

    Dont have the stats in front of me, but -70 AC would reduce a mage wearing +8 Tier 5 armor to ?? Like +2 Tier 5? Tier 3+7??

    70AC is quite a lot for a mage, would u trade in all your +8 armor for +3s for a bit more dmg? not sure i would.

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    only if your going paper/damage and your level 70 or so

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    Everyone that has posted is an idiot (except karysa)... -70ac will cancel out with ac valks and defense pathos gloves which is what every mage has except for the penny pinchers. So now its basically do you want a staff with 1 more ap, more lightning and glacier elemental. Answer is pretty obvious.

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    ffs look at the requirements pls

    You dont have to have ANY INT. NO INT REQUIREMENT.

    pls think about a paper mage with a staff with this AP....think about it......................

    This staff pwns the elysium BAR-NONE.

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    Everyone that has posted is an idiot (except karysa)... -70ac will cancel out with ac valks and defense pathos gloves which is what every mage has except for the penny pinchers. So now its basically do you want a staff with 1 more ap, more lightning and glacier elemental. Answer is pretty obvious.[/b]
    that is true there, but the negative ac is pretty harsh, i know it does just cancel out from the armors + valks and such, but if u had a choice between ADDING 70 ac vs 1 ap more light and glacier element... i would take the 70 ac lolz

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    that is true there, but the negative ac is pretty harsh, i know it does just cancel out from the armors + valks and such, but if u had a choice between ADDING 70 ac vs 1 ap more light and glacier element... i would take the 70 ac lolz [/b]
    Once you start playing mage more seriously you will see...

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    that is true there, but the negative ac is pretty harsh, i know it does just cancel out from the armors + valks and such, but if u had a choice between ADDING 70 ac vs 1 ap more light and glacier element... i would take the 70 ac lolz [/b]

    BUT THERE IS ZERO ---> 0 ------> NO ----> NADDA INT REQUIREMENT.

    this has to take precidence over 1 AP. Elysium takes 138 INt......so if you use this staff as paper/cardboard you will see that it fucking rapes the elysium HANDS DOWN.

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    BUT THERE IS ZERO ---> 0 ------> NO ----> NADDA INT REQUIREMENT.

    this has to take precidence over 1 AP. Elysium takes 138 INt......so if you use this staff as paper/cardboard you will see that it fucking rapes the elysium HANDS DOWN.[/b]
    and if u go paper, you get raped yourself oO lol, a friend has the fire staff ( fulitol) @ +6 now, but he wants 2 sell it cuz he gets raped, he is cardbored btw,

    these new staffs are nice for the ap, but its not worth the extra ac that a mage has to sacrifice :X, if i had a choice between an elysium +8 and this staff +7, i would take the elysium,

    1 reason is the undefeatale part of the effect i think isn't the best ( makes it so u cannot be tped for 5 seconds) which if u notice, not every1 pks with a mage oO lol, so even if the effect works it wont even do anything,

    2nd reason is because IF you play a mage, u are always getting debuffed and constantly aimed...idk what server u play, but in ronark, mages always are aimed first, and personally if u have low ac ur GONNA get rocked,

    3rd reason meaning your going to go " paper" with this staff, u will go 70 int, 255 mp, and 132 hp, and lets say u have a paper set +9

    which gives u 223 ac + 80 from ur lvl = 303 ac, but then - 70 which is 233 ac, if u add in for instances imirs +1 = 48 ac = 281 ac + gb +0 = 301 + in = 0 defensse (but wep defense) = 301 + dual sses +0 = 40 = 341 base ac + pathos - 361 + ac valks = 411 base ac... lol...

    411+32 from stat points = 443 base ac is worth the 1 more ap of the staff? and lets seeing as when u pk u get tormented ur ac goes down by 133 (torment 30% defense decrese, and 443x .3 = 132.9 which is basically 133 to keep it average) so u have 310 ac when ur debuffed... u may have sum hp.. but do u really think having this much ac when ur debuffed is gonna keep u alive to do any damage? lol

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    real man uses talias / iron set / defense set / cs + 0

    + lvl 80 vampire touch for full hp / blink and heal up

    obviously paper + this staff is for party only, not solo mage

    although i did like to try this staff and at +8 and go paper lighting just for the hell of it

    gg 8-9k hp with undying

    if you are constant debuffed, it doesnt even matter if you are paper or complete

    there was one time in girakon, my pk partner and i decided to pk without buffs + armor, because it is impossible to leave base without getting fully debuffed (massive + confusion included)

    fun times

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    Usefull for these:
    Dual Elemental Mage
    Paper Mage

    70 AC is not everything if you want to be able to do full damage with two elementals or do a crap load more as Paper.

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