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This is a discussion on Experienced ardream players within the Class Questions and Tips forums, part of the Game Questions & Tips category; a staff attack mage in ardream, should he use flame rings +2 or rocs+2 ces +3 or wes+2. i heard ...
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    a staff attack mage in ardream, should he use flame rings +2 or rocs+2
    ces +3 or wes+2.
    i heard that the extra (+MP) doesnt affect the damage.
    so if not i should buy (+STR) for higher staff attacks. i got hell blood+8

    hell blood+8 or scorching staff+8--


    * paper dd+7
    * dual flame rings+2
    * +9 paper set mage hp
    * +8 lycaon staff
    * glass belt
    * iron neck
    * agate+3/ce+3/we+2

    => paper mage
    or

    * chitin dd+7 mage
    * dual flamerings+2
    * chitin set+8
    * hell blood+8
    * glass belt
    * iron neck / ep+2
    * agate+3/ce+3/we+2

    => int mage

    which one is stronger/powerful

    with paper mage i mainly attack with
    skill
    56= manes of fire
    51=pillar of fire
    54=fire thorn
    57=fire impact
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    with int mage mainly
    skill
    42=fire blade
    51=pillar of fire
    54=fire thorn
    57=fire impact

    or should i use ring of the felankor+1

    > confused and waiting for good arguments
    Last edited by Lexus; 04-03-2011 at 07:57 AM.

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    flame rings, i would go for ce's +3 over we +2.
    Flame rings and hell blood gives best staff damage. scorchign would be a bit more tanky though cause of dd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92pascal View Post
    flame rings, i would go for ce's +3 over we +2.
    Flame rings and hell blood gives best staff damage. scorchign would be a bit more tanky though cause of dd.
    could i come over 500 staff attacks with hellb.+8 and fr+2s

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    for higher attacks for mage use shio/imir/flame ring, if u want to go paper i would go paper dd, linen +9 and scorchin over lycaon but thats me. And what is better both have advantages and disadvantages, just what u prefer to play.

    Paper is more for long range, hit from distance, and crimson build more for blading tanking etc. For long range u will need most attacks, and blades for when some1 gets close. also frostbite for the slow here and there. Mage is about how u want to play. Go for more long range more damage or a bit more tankish with higher blades.

    Even though with those kind of items, u will be tank enough in ardream anyway GL

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    wouldnt play a character if he dies for 2 gg rogues
    i should be able to survive and make some high damages.
    if i can top 500+ damage with staff attack, it would be acceptable
    i can afford both variants.

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    think staff will be around 450-500 not sure never played with that kind of items, watch electr0's pk vid its in media section he had hell blood 8 and fr +2 or 3 im not sure. but he does like 450 i think, 500 is a real lot in dcz though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexus View Post
    could i come over 500 staff attacks with hellb.+8 and fr+2s
    no.... well maybe 1 hit in 100 will go over 500

    I had hb +8 rev (136 ap), 144 int (crystal +9 set + dd) and flame rings +3...ep+2 (using an IN in dcz is stupid imo, the 10% reduction will never be as much as the higher ap you get from the ep), ib, and wse +2 / BE +3, ac valks and rogue pathos glove
    Most of the staff dmgs were between 400 and 500, only like 30% would hit over 500.

    I tried several builds in dcz, this one was the most balanced (4K hp, 1K+ ac, fully scrolled) and hardest hitting (800+ with thorn, 400ish with ignition)

    But I played diez, where everyone had pretty decent gear... so maybe in your serv u'll hit higher.
    Last edited by simontjeuh; 04-03-2011 at 08:07 AM.

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    so then i should go paper mage.
    i got some old pic. from my old server where i build a paper mage






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    manes is crap, you can get 3x staff dmg in the time u can get 1 manes.... were those average hits or highest hits? Highest I hit in dcz was 564 with STAFF or something around that, I should look for my screens. Is that mage lvl 59?

    I wouldn't go paper, cause the little dmg increase u get isn't worth the loss of ac imo.

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    that was a 59 level ardream mage
    that was only a average hit.
    iam not sure but items were
    lycaonstaff+8
    +1flame rings
    agate +2s
    paper+8-9
    iron set
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    i only played 3days then i had to sell the items for own reasons
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontjeuh View Post
    ep+2 (using an IN in dcz is stupid imo, the 10% reduction will never be as much as the higher ap you get
    could u explain that pls cuz i dont recall necks giving higher ap or do u mean hp here?

    and my 2 cents, im a huge fan of staffing and for real that second build would rock like hell but it would rock even harder if u'd go crystals+8/+9=> rest of the int points in mp so i'd say go simontjeuhs build, its awesome

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    so u mean

    +8 hell blood
    +2 flame rings
    +9 linen set
    +7dd mage
    +3ce's/+2we's

    note = crimson helmet dd+7 required 152 int
    it make no sense to buy +9 crystals, i have to give 152 int..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexus View Post
    so u mean

    +8 hell blood
    +2 flame rings
    +9 linen set
    +7dd mage
    +3ce's/+2we's

    note = crimson helmet dd+7 required 152 int
    it make no sense to buy +9 crystals, i have to give 152 int..
    means u are in a new server cause else there would be crystal +6/25 dd helms. if so i would og for crimsons 8 yes or just 152 int and go for crystal pauldron and pads

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    carnac west, we dont have crystal +6/25 dd
    that means

    152int
    51str
    rest in mp?

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    only if u can find crystals +9 else i would go for crimson 8

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