What is the best of these bow?

[Akemichan]

Hellow Guys, I have an IB +8 and I'm thinking of buying a better bow.
Asking in moradon I found these models, which would you recommend:

• Bombastic Giant Windforce (+7) (127 AP) SO: Reduction

• Fire Rain Windforce (+7) (127 AP) SO: Splash

• Lousy Pickpocket Windforce (+7) (127 AP) SO: Strike Wrist

• Undefeatable Windforce (+7) (127 AP) SO: Cannot Use The Ones To Be Summoned

Another consultant, a "Iron Bow (+8) Rebirth (134 AP)", this bow is better "Winforce+7 (127 AP)"???

I play in server DIEZ, you know the approximate prices of these bows?

Thanks

[razor]

undefeatable and lousy = trash

i wonder why u dont mention restricted diet? o.O

anyway in case u dont kno, the skill options are:

bombastic: 1% chance of making ur opponent big for 5 seconds plus -150 ac reduction (like bezoar)
restricted diet: opponent cant use pots for 3 seconds, 1% chance.
lousy: opponent loses his weapons for 2~ seconds, 1% chance.
fire rain: 5% chance of a 250 aoe.
undefeatable: opponent can be tped for the next 5 seconds.

so far the undefeatable type is always the cheapest in every type of cursed weapon... its like buying just the item with no special option included. (bonuses are still good)

lousy is a bit more expensive (same as bombastic i think), not quite useful... i guess u can judge which 1 would b useful based on the descriptions i made.

anyway... windforce vs ib+8 reb?

both are almost the same ap wise, it all depends on what type of archer u are...

if ur an all-ap archer that attack from far all the time, then ib+8reb... u dont really need the curse cuz the chances are already pretty low for 1 arrow (not mentioning that as an ap whore ur defense should already be really low).

if ur a tank archer with a decent arrow shower combo then id think of getting the windforce depending on how much ac u already have (at least 750+ base)

anyway in both cases imo ib+8 reb would b better cuz u can use it on ur rlb / ardream char and u keep that 70 defense (windforce has -70 defense "bonus)".

ps: if u go for a windforce in the end then get fire rain for ranged archer... for tank archer u can choose between restricted diet / bombastic or fire rain.

about prices idk.. but i guess that ib+8 rebirth is as expensive as a res diet/ fire rain windforce

[Gaudior]

hmm i think that lousy is also good in vs-es. but sure, restricted diet is far the best.
and every windforces give dex, so they are clearly better than IB.
If u cant have diet, then bombastic giant/fire rain and lousy are almost the same good.

[Akemichan]

Hi, thansk for answers.
Additional information:

My current AP with "IB +8" + wolf is 2144

• With "Windforce +7" + wolf would arrive 2208 (+64 AP)
• With "Iron Bow +8 rebirht" + wolf would arrive 2240 (+96 AP)

The calculations take them out of the following website:

King of Knight - Character Guide

Thanks

[eldar]

rainfire from that 4 u wrote above

[razor]

imo bombastic is just as good as res diet cuz making them big would mean = no chance to dodge arrows with the leetest s-r combo

[regiss]

undefeatable and lousy = trash

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bombastic: 1% chance of making ur opponent big for 5 seconds plus -150 ac reduction (like bezoar)

you are wrong in this part. from kok :

Reduction
Class: Special
Special
Mana Consumption: 0
Cooldown time: 0 seconds
Description: Enlarge enemy, but decrease attack and defense rate by 5%
Buff / debuff
Spell Effect: Reduction effect
Duration: 10 seconds
Defense set to 85% of original

King of Knight - Skill Guides - Reduction

[razor]

oh it was 15% reduction then...

well :P wasnt too sure but what im sure is that the size increase effect doesnt last 10 seconds... thats too much.

[BreakingPoint]

get fire rain..it's cooler..haha but IB+8 rev is much better and you don't lose defence..

[zrocker0404]

Get the iron bow+8 RV.

Why would you get a curse that will probably never go off (archers have no r hit) and for -70 ac? this is a no brainer to me

[Kogenta]

yes i agree with what mccool said. i was using rest. diet wf+7 and now im using a reversed ib and just gettin that 70 back makes such a difference