Whats better for rouge?

[CaptainStar]

so dcz
and rlb

wp+2 & iron belt
In + elf belt+2 /3?(or a other belt??)

[MushtMan]

wp+2 and IB, will explain more after i finish eating.

[CaptainStar]

or an iron set?

[MushtMan]

What is your current gear? i have used both WP+2 and an IN and i prefer the IN.

Just state your gear then first.

[CaptainStar]

well its not for me, cuz as u maybe noticed quitselling ^^.

Well its for my friend he currently buying this :

2x re+1
Chitin set 7
glass belt
wp 1
shard 8
chd 7
dual rol 0

he has more money now, wich he using to upgrade his accesoires.

personally i adviced him iron set, but some other guy is swearing fully dex is better. (elf belt 2, pp+2/3) wich I said is dumb.

[MushtMan]

well its not for me, cuz as u maybe noticed quitselling ^^.

Well its for my friend he currently buying this :

2x re+1
Chitin set 7
glass belt
wp 1
shard 8
chd 7
dual rol 0

he has more money now, wich he using to upgrade his accesoires.

personally i adviced him iron set, but some other guy is swearing fully dex is better. (elf belt 2, pp+2/3) wich I said is dumb.

rofl full dex is the dumbest thing out there, unless that guy likes to play like a phaggot and go spike,thrust run-wait for them to recharge-spike-thrust.

Anywayz this is why i prefer the Iron set.

Firstly in my eyes the Iron Belt is a must, it gives you 50 freakin AC and 10% damage reduction to all weapons.

Now it's WP+2 vs IN.

WP+2 gives:

1) HP
2) MP
3) Dex
4) Resistances
5) AC

About the HP and MP, the IN gives that as well and they are about the same, maybe the WP+2 gives like 30 HP more or something but that's not noticeable so that's already gone.

Dexterity, ok how much more AP is it gonna give him? max 30? come on that's nothing, let's agree that the 30 AP isn't the thing that is gonna give him the kill. So let's look at this as a minor thing.

Resistances - The real resistance he needs to watch out for is the GR (LR he will have enough with ROLS and RE+1 x2 + CHD+7). With RE+1 x2 and CHD+7 he will have 12x2 + 14 = 38GR. I know it seems low, it probably isn't the best but I have played with around 40 and I did fine. He just needs to learn to cure fast and he will be fine. Maybe he can work on getting RE+2 x2 to get that GR up.

So now we are left with AC. 28 AC vs 10% damage reduction to ALL weapons. I think it's obvious that the 10% is better.

So in conclusion:

- HP/MP is about the same with the IN
- The 20-30 AP he gets with WP+2 isn't all that and certainly won't be the thing that makes him get the kills.
- Resistances, only big downside is the GR, but I still think he will do fine with it, also if he parties with a mage, have that mage give him GR all the time and he will do more than fine.
- 28 AC vs 10% damage reduction. Obviously the 10% is better.

So basically the IN will make him more of a tank and harder to kill, and what's the point of having the WP+2 and being able to hit like a little more when you will die faster.

And like I said, I have used both of them and I liked the tankability the IN gives you a lot more. Not to mention if you wanna go full DD mode and have 35 DD, I wanna see a sin kill you. You could probably tank a few sins like that.

Well I think that's all, but it's his choice to make.

[CaptainStar]

Thanks a lot for the great explanaition.

Ill tell him a wise man told me this.

[MushtMan]

BTW if he decides to only play RLB he can get one LB+0 to get his resistances up.

[Pyrocii]

IN + elf belt +2 for sure =)
good defence and also keeps ur ap up

[SellGBS4CWest]

i think BDN+3 & Juching Belt +2/+3 & dual Elf Ring +3
you will get a lot of dex bunos !! you will dammger a lot ..

[MushtMan]

i think BDN+3 & Juching Belt +2/+3 & dual Elf Ring +3
you will get a lot of dex bunos !! you will dammger a lot ..

please gtfo, thanks.

[Leviatan]

for dcz u need ap... ur itens and uniques are good, but come on man chitins +7?, if u have money buy chitin +8, about the uniques, Iron set always if u know minor in dcz and rlb with iron set u can tank 2 maybe 3 guys for sometime.. i always loved tank rogues, but if u dont know how to minor or combo well go to full dex, spike + thrust + run... or learn to combo.. my opinion

[bknight]

listen to musht lol. ive said it before also WP+2, IB best combo. having alot of natural ac is awesome for any char in ardream. but if its not in the budget skelly belt is also awesome cause of the gr and its affordable.

[PurEppOwnage]

haha mitch XD
didnt know u were making a topic for me.
The current situation is worse actually

gear atm:
dual re +0
chitin set +7
shard +8
chd +7
rols +0
wp+0
glass belt

im upping re to +1 asap
then going wp+1
then rogue dd +6
then chitins +8
nd by the time i get here ill prob buy an IN
but ill prob be dead be4 that

[inarco]

an iron set in ardream it's pretty a waste cuz skill dmg isn't that high as in cz.
So ep or wp would be a better choice. then DD cap and iron belt or glass or skele belt would be enough for tanking.
Choose wp and a skele if you lack of glaciar resist and buy then an elf belt +1/+2 to swith when u want to go full ap.
Otherwise...go after iron belt. 50ac is 50 ac XD

Btw...an iron set is never a wrong idea