Yeah when rebirth first came out i think it was 50% to any + and then 70% with tears, or if it was 30% and 50% with tears. Not too sure, But ive made countless things +4 rebirth no tears, and it burns going to +5 with tears, same with going to +11. I know there was a few people that had alot of bad luck going to +5 and +11Its the same chance to go to +11 or go to +10, rebirth upgrade has same chance no matter what + they go I believe [/b]
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