Dont blame my clan WarGoose blame me. When I told you the ladies were willing to vote for ANY the posting wasnt complete. By the time my own forums poll was done the majority couldnt get over how R2D "let" BC do an isiloon and the other things I discussed with you in PM. No need to say you didnt mention names, you said 2 of the top english clans orc side....last time i checked there was only 3 of us I still aint mad and I will continue to try and help, but there has to be some give somewhere. If you arent careful more people will compare Vindicitive to the way Illuminati was perceived.