This is a discussion on Back!...Again :) Questions ??? within the General Chat forums, part of the Knight Online (ko4life.com) category; Originally Posted by itzbryan
I was mainly playing support. But did make plays on debuffs as a proper sin should. ...
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I'm a reasonably well geared sin on europa and my take on this is that, you could still have fun playing with olds and +7/8's, for example i have died to people with those items before, if their are 5 people with not so great items they will still put a beating on a fully duffed rogue. But you are not going to be a god and doing 2 v 8's with those kind of items sadly. Honestly for me it does not matter the items of a player when i'm attacking them, any rogue on the server is a 1-hit when fully duffed, it doesn't matter if they have +7 and old's or +8 krowaz, full +3's and +9 weapons and the same goes for other well geared sins.
Bottom line is you can still play the game and have fun with +7/8's and olds but don't expect to do anything too special.
Average means that you are neither detrimental nor a key component in party PK. Detrimental meaning you are dying every time you leave the base and a key component meaning the party loses if you're not there. It means you do damage, take damage, and marginally add to the outcome of your party.
My example with noob gear was simply to illustrate the idea that without all this GG gear that people perceive to be the norm, I was still able to keep my priest cured and minored, do 1.2k spike on a debuffed priest, and survive. It illustrated the notion that with average gear (better than what my sin has), you can play just fine.
Actually average gear means what most people, including your everyday turk, has. I really doubt that most CZ pkers are running with +7s and olds.
Exactly lol. I don't think that even with +3s and +9s someone could survive 5 80 sins on +7s let alone a full party. Nobody is claiming that +9/+3 will let you pull off unbelievable feats, it's more like +7s will not let you do anything on your own.
Most of the people supporting this idea play in parties, so of course you're still gonna get kills and survive if you're the 1 shitty geared player out of 8 with +8s and higher (getting carried basically).
Anyway I'm done now. It is playable with +7s without a doubt, it's not like you'll get 1 hit without duffs, but it's by no means optimal and you're dead weight on your own. Back in 2008 with above average gear I had issues hitting for higher than 600 with 70 arrows in carnac-west, and to think that in 2014 someone in +7s and olds can still hold his own makes me chuckle honestly.
so who have the bigger epeen?
Bryan or Screamer?
And don't you see how that makes you neither stand out nor get face rolled? You literally just said the exact same thing I said with a different explanation. Wow.
All I know is Screamer is butthurt because clearly he has spent too much on KO to ever even think that maybe he didn't need all of those items, just some skill :O
EDIT: What am I saying... All Cwest players are #1 in the game.
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