This is a discussion on Back!...Again :) Questions ??? within the General Chat forums, part of the Knight Online (ko4life.com) category; Originally Posted by Bristleback
your wrong about them 7s and olds.
id say average gear is 8s and 1s.
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Anyone else tired of the +7 / olds bullshit? It's the oldest trick to try to bait new players to play your server lol.
Btw you can do well with +5s and dex+4 jewelry at Asgard so come play!
Id say the average for Europa is +7 Krowaz and Olds or +0s
I have a mage friend (Marekzin) who played the server a year or two ago who was level 72 with +6's against all 83s and +7s and died once while making 3k NP -- This was just after a noob mage from cwest claimed his level 81 was no match for guys in CZ and basically NPT'd before he quit the party. It's not all about items; it's having a brain to position and choose your fights properly.
Also, I play on a rogue with quest armor and all olds with shard 7 and pd 7 and last week made 1k NP and 0 deaths (I'm not good at rogue). Food for thought.
Every1 is capable of playing like a full gay, spiking and insta run 20 miles away and hope they don't 1 shot you. I've once vsed a lvl 83 with my lvl 80 sin in Olympia, while i was wearing quest armors +1/+0 uniques and +8 daggers while he was using kro set+8 with +9 daggers and probably +2/+3 uniques, this doesn't mean i can have big fun in Colony Zone and rape everyone i want because they will simply kill me way to easy and it's boring to play like a rat and run 90% of the time u play.
P.S that doesn't mean u need to have +3s or don't play at all, it's always fun to have more of a challenge but you still need to be competetive yourself otherwise you'll get bored or feel useless and then in the end you'll end up quitting or babaing.
Another example is, the most people that are considered ''good and geared'' in Anatolia are using krowaz+8, a weapon +9/+10 with full unique set+3 and some are using dragon/mythrils+10. I am still using krowaz +7, (Gonna get +8s soon tho) +10 dagger and moonlight+7 and i'm able to fight the strongest parties with my clan/ally without feeling ''weaker'' or something, i do my job and i do it successfully most of the time, but still KO is the way KO is nowadays, and everyone will become stronger and stronger, you'll have to go with em or die trying.
I was mainly playing support. But did make plays on debuffs as a proper sin should. And nobody 1 hit me.
Furthermore, guys with +2's and +3's / +8s and +9s in my clan completely destroy kids. We aren't talking about that. We are saying "average." You can be "average" (60th-70th percentile in effectiveness, lets say) as a sin for example with Krowaz 7, all olds, +7 moonlight, +8 shard. If you disagree you probably just aren't skilled to begin with - sorry for the truth. (speaking for Europa players specifically with regard to average gear)
Im using HR+0, IN+0, FOV+2 and NO BELT at all because im poor, and I hardly ever die......and Ive not even been 1 hit once even whilst fully duffed. If you know how to play the game +0s are fine, especially for a rogue or a priest.
And no I don't just run around, running away from duffs and shit, I know how to position myself to not get duffed and to be able to pick out targets easily, if you cant play the game don't blame it on the fact your items are under average, thats just a bitch movement.
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