Imagine a Sub Fee KO w/ no PUS

**Eye4Eye** · 12-25-2014, 09:52 AM

With a little tweaking to the upgrade percentages since there are no Trinas. I feel like that would be one hell of a game. In my opinion, and I'm guilty of spending upwards of $800, babashopping really ruins this game and the feeling of accomplishment. Had KO been a sub based game with no cash shop, it would have been such an epic game. I know they bank off the PUS, but it's wishful thinking anyway. What do you think? Would KO have been successful as a subscription MMO?

In before, "It already is with premiums."

**BabyTickler** · 12-25-2014, 10:18 AM

I love to be way more powerfull then any other player because i can afford it.
I love to be one of the top players in my server and ppl look up against me because i have nice items.
So No, i like ko the way it is!

But would it be more succesful? yes...

**ScreameR** · 12-25-2014, 10:37 AM

it could work, but it will still not bring new-players, the playerbase will still be the same with people that already play for years.

**regiss** · 12-25-2014, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Eye4Eye

With a little tweaking to the upgrade percentages since there are no Trinas. I feel like that would be one hell of a game. In my opinion, and I'm guilty of spending upwards of $800, babashopping really ruins this game and the feeling of accomplishment. Had KO been a sub based game with no cash shop, it would have been such an epic game. I know they bank off the PUS, but it's wishful thinking anyway. What do you think? Would KO have been successful as a subscription MMO?

In before, "It already is with premiums."

it would be epic game without injection +10 items and almost non actions aganist cheaters by K2 for few years.

**razor** · 12-25-2014, 11:24 AM

Monthly sub fee is a joke of a business model atm, and it would be even more of a joke for a game like KO.

Edit: also, for the people that may think that this would stop gold farmers... even p2p games have them.

**Kallop** · 12-25-2014, 01:10 PM

I imagine it would be another game that I wouldn't be playing. How fun.

**SkyHunter** · 12-25-2014, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by razor

Monthly sub fee is a joke of a business model atm, and it would be even more of a joke for a game like KO.

Edit: also, for the people that may think that this would stop gold farmers... even p2p games have them.

Very few games can actually support a pay to play model at the moment. If I remember correctly, RIFT tried to do it and had to cancel it because of how atrocious the number of users playing was?
I much prefer what GW2 has; pay a fine sum of money ($60 when it launched) and play forever, this way if you get banned, you have to repay that every time, way better imo.

BUT THOSE GAMES ALSO DONT HAVE GAME MASTERS SELLING ITEMS TO PEOPLE FOR $$$$$ ALL DAY LONG SO IUNNO MAYNE

**BabyTickler** · 12-25-2014, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by SkyHunter

Very few games can actually support a pay to play model at the moment. If I remember correctly, RIFT tried to do it and had to cancel it because of how atrocious the number of users playing was?
I much prefer what GW2 has; pay a fine sum of money ($60 when it launched) and play forever, this way if you get banned, you have to repay that every time, way better imo.

BUT THOSE GAMES ALSO DONT HAVE GAME MASTERS SELLING ITEMS TO PEOPLE FOR $$$$$ ALL DAY LONG SO IUNNO MAYNE

I've heard this many times. GM'S selling items to players? Is there any real evidence?

**Nautus** · 12-25-2014, 05:12 PM

There was a gm in ares long time ago who sold items for $. I Don't remember his name. It's not a legend it was real don't know if it's still like that.
Imo money can buy everything and everyone

**razor** · 12-25-2014, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Nautus

There was a gm in ares long time ago who sold items for $. I Don't remember his name. It's not a legend it was real don't know if it's still like that.
Imo money can buy everything and everyone

They're no myth, they were real and existed in many servers, one of them being carnac west.

Ask anyone from the old Legacy clan.

**Diver** · 12-25-2014, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by razor

They're no myth, they were real and existed in many servers, one of them being carnac west.

Ask anyone from the old Legacy clan.

stop bullying people omg no bullies welcome here

**Deadhealer** · 12-25-2014, 09:27 PM

This idea is totally possible. However the only way its can be done if you have at least 3-4 developers who can code in c++. What you do is a make good server a VERRY GOOD server with no PUS with added donation button that will give you in game special status as a Donor. Should be just a visual status or special glowing w/e . How this will work? Well if server is very reliable fun and everything work properly people who play here will appreciate this and for sure there will be good amount of donations. However it is not mandatory. Unfortunately this is close to impossible to happen as there is two main problems. .1. Everyone wants to make sure they earn money and they will need pus no matter what. Second we aint got enough devs.