KE > ROFD?

[Destructo]

Old KO pwned. One major reason was the no cap on the server, i remember, 10 am Saturday morning and being able to log on to Ares 1 no problem without premium. In KO/KE you could actually play KO without premium, now its Pay to Login, Free to Play. I for one don't like to pay monthly for games so that is one reason why i dont play KO anymore (can't login, so play other games). Also again, I was so excited to hit 60 because i was thinking "Yes! I can pk now" but, right before I hit 60 (about a month or two) ROFD was released, I go to the CZ thinking im going to pwn, and i had no fun because i couldnt kill anyone anymore

Nostalgia kicks in: I remmember in KO a few weeks after i had started playing, me and my friend were exping and a turk must have started speaking turkish in PM's to me asking for a party(ofcourse we had no clue what the hell he was asking for), lol my answer to him was "sorry je ne pas Francais"(for those of you who know a little bit of french. LOL those were the days.[/b]

LOL

I remember the good old days too. Me and one of my friends playing KO, both rogues, we were exping on Megantherons or the smaller version of them and i kept dying cause i refused to use pots :P.

I wish I could play old KO again, those were definitively the days.

[Pretorian_BG]

and there were only few clans with capes(and it was so cool when i managed to get in one of then, i looked so sexy )...now every single clan have one....

[sir_locksley]

and how exatly do you know i wasnt around to pk in ke? ive been playing since sep-oct 04 lol... dont talk if you dont know ... KE was like a semi-ROFD , by far the worst expansion... everyone says old KO cause everyone loved to be a noob and liked the experience of a new game ... wich is gone by now[/b]

because i remember when u were like a lvl 50 noob in Special on Ares right when RoFD came out LAWL


i love it when u call out other ppls BS =)


also explain to me how it was a semi-roFD? they didnt change a helluva lot like they did with RoFD... no new skills, same CZ map in old KO on USKO, compounding system which did have a negative effect but not nearly as much as the duping and exp bugging of RoFD, the only big changes is just different nation maps and the king system, both changes which dont affect the balance of pk... the most important part of this game

RoFD added some stupid weapons which overweighted a couple classes, also added skills and increase of lvl cap which affects ur stats... in which warriors benefit the most from the additional stats, more duping methods came out than previously seen with the addition of KE, exp bugs gave lazy turks a way to keep up with active players in lvls, need i go on?


for me KO was probably the best in gameplay wise... yes the new game factor was part of it but also less bugs and dupers had less strength cuz u could only have +0 uniques... but in how much fun ive had playing the game would be KE actually... becuz i got in good clans and found some friends i still remain in touch with today... playing with ppl on vent was also great too... not so much of that in old KO on MYKO when i played there =)

[Speed]

because i remember when u were like a lvl 50 noob in Special on Ares right when RoFD came out LAWL
i love it when u call out other ppls BS =)[/b]

lol i was the only 64 on special and only helping them with NPs.. not that i even have many anyways , i havent even played much after ROFD was released ... i played almost all my chars in old KO .. sticked with my warrior trough KE and quit in ROFD ... well i play ocasionally , and obviously this warrior is a fresh character i had older ones

not trying to fight u... just that ppl dont know my previous chars.. dont feel like naming them either its past and it should it stay there

[Xero]

Old KO > All I loved the Rush by orcs and humans....100 Orcs next to bowl and then in 5 min humans rushed that was fun to see like 50-100ppl togather [/b]

+1

[Renzuk]

ko > everything

[TaDaaa]

KO= Being able to talk in english and 90% of the people understand
KO= Leveling on Haunga's

KE= Being able to talk in english and 40% of the people understanding
KE= Leveling on Apos in eslant and 3 spot trolls in CZ

ROFD= Searching for 30 minutes for anyone that actually even understands english
ROFD= Stupid people that do not even know what CZ means

[Renzuk]

no ko was one warrior provoking everything outside breth for 30 minutes until i got lvl 30

god those were the days

[Chemical]

KO= Being able to talk in english and 90% of the people understand
KO= Leveling on Haunga's

KE= Being able to talk in english and 40% of the people understanding
KE= Leveling on Apos in eslant and 4 spot trolls in CZ

ROFD= Searching for 30 minutes for anyone that actually even understands english
ROFD= Stupid people that do not even know what CZ means[/b]

4 spots trolls? oh noes, which cz was that? :P

there were only 3 spawns :P

[djelica]

KO= Being able to talk in english and 90% of the people understand
KO= Leveling on Haunga's

KE= Being able to talk in english and 40% of the people understanding
KE= Leveling on Apos in eslant and 4 spot trolls in CZ

ROFD= Searching for 30 minutes for anyone that actually even understands english
ROFD= Stupid people that do not even know what CZ means[/b]

+1

[StinkingSerb]

The only 4 changes from old KO that i really dont like are:

1.) lvl 80 cap increase > killed the fun for me cuz i never was much of a exper after maybe like 65, and even worse, a lot more cheaters got use of that than legit ppl.

2.) those fucking quests that give +5 weapons, to be more precise +5 cleavers quest. It really killed the balance of New Servers, cause nowdays in new servers Sins r just overpowered cuz for some reason so many ppl get +8 cleavers (even +9 now on Girakon) and many of lvl 60+ warrios cant even afford money to sword dance. I mean sins with +8 cleavers VS warriors that use Hoodwing... Not really fair fight.

I remember those good old days when nobody had better glowies than like Sword Breakers +8 for a while, and even Lamia drops like kukry, or cleaver daggers were worth money lol. Now that obviously every1 knows about farming mastos for cash even that is 24/7 full on Girakon and adds to lack of money for pots. Never tot i would say this, but ye on my current server u can actually feel lack of macroers cause theres so few ppl with cash, its not even funny.

3.) New CZ. I still dont like the new map, bowl to be specific. The new shortcuts for orcs and humans really kill the fun of having like 100 ppl rushing sides of bowl to push opposite side to their town. Good old days.

and last but not least, 4.) Provoke. That thing used to pwn, so much better aoes. I still dont get why they fucked it up.

[RiseAgainst_]

1) What changed about provoke? i dont remember.

Yes the new cz is gay.. the pushing over on each side was awesome.

[Speed]

you cant provoke properly now , monsters dont get lured cause they run back to their spot... also i think the delay of the skill was modified

[StinkingSerb]

yeh JC aoes used to looked diff. Priest would run with Warrior who would use provoke to gather like shitloads of harpys (whole left or whole right side snow for example, or even all of them i think ive seen that too) and bring the bunch in front of the mages. 1 ice nova, and it can begin. I mean they got EW now, but still aoes at least to me used to be more fun.

[ArminVanBuuren]

How did ROFD made PK unbalanced? its seriously not fun to see almost everyone in the server the same lvl (70). That would be really no fun. One of the main fun of the game is to be the best in the server. The one that works hard rise to the top, ones that get lazy lvling to 80 will never be top. w/o rofd everyone would be equal ~_~ lvl 70 with nearly same gear... And ROFD lvling is far easier then old KO. it took people months to get 60. now it takes some people 3 or 4 days. I remember back in KE times people were excited and impatient for ROFD. But now they fucking hate it ~_~ dont understand why lol. only made KO a better game[/b]

Actually, from what you said, I think your idea of balance would be some ppl being on higher lvls than everyone else...obviously you haven't been at any international championship in which everyone has same lvl, same equipments and all relies on skill only. That's balance. That's CHALLENGE. Now, tell me about balance in a game in which the duper/koxper/babashopper/cheater goes actually better than the ones that really put some effort ingame? C'mon!!!

About the lvling, it's easier for the ones that are able to stay the whole day playing, exping 24/7, but what about the others? Some ppl study, work, go social, live. The ones that have gotten lvl 80 atm either have shared accounts or just stopped living for a while (if not, ask Zike how many sleeping hours he got a day before hitting lvl 80).

Now, on a general opinion, of course every game has to evolve if they want to keep ppl playing it, but imho, KO has evolved the wrong things. It is now far from what it was, a great game. When someone at the cyber told be "hey, download KO, it is a great game" I just thought the same even the day before KE was released...the day before ROFD was released, I can surely tell you not even half the KO players were thinking that anymore.