This is a discussion on Re-catapulting IS bug abuse, finally an answer from GM within the General Chat forums, part of the Knight Online (ko4life.com) category; With calimaestro, gm on ares :
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With calimaestro, gm on ares :
I deleted last sentences because the guy who talked with the gm wanna stay anonymous and those sentences mentioned his identity.
Every delos attackers, don't forget to launch fraps before next CSW. Sending ksc of catapult low hp then full hp again (2 screenshots) will work too since time are included in ksc files.
Send all proof to customer support.
The hunt for bug abuser have begun B).
u DO realize they dont say its bannable thuogh? or that anything bad will happen if u do it, he just says its a bug
delicate subject, some gms will say it is bug abuse some won't.
it's bug abuse until another gm say it's notdelicate subject, some gms will say it is bug abuse some won't.[/b]
What so they just want people to submit it so they can look at pretty screenshots of people and delos?u DO realize they dont say its bannable thuogh? or that anything bad will happen if u do it, he just says its a bug[/b]
read between the lines numb nuts.
Abusing a bug IS bug abuse, bug abuse IS bannable. This GM asked to send tickets with the proof, i think it clearly means it is bannable.u DO realize they dont say its bannable thuogh? or that anything bad will happen if u do it, he just says its a bug[/b]
The 2 main gms (saphyr and greenster) already banned people for this on other servers, even friends. If i understood well there are 2 local gms by server and 2 main gms for every server, it means already 3 of the 4 gms associated with ares told it was bug abuse, you really need the answer from the 4th one ? I think you shouldn't hope for too much help from him.delicate subject, some gms will say it is bug abuse some won't.[/b]
last CSW at xig, there is like 8 ppl banned for cat key bug abuse ( nevermore shit clan ofc )
like was said b4, its banable to do it, there is only one questin if there r gms looking
feel free to do it so, but dont cry if u will get ban for that
What CaliMaestro wrote in that PM, is what they always tell the players of the servers, all the time. "We are working on it". In other words, yeah yeah it's a bug just stop asking me questions which I will give you an automatic reply to just like they give people with CS Tickets. If they were really working on it, then this bug would have been fixed a longggg time ago...
there are about 2-3 gm's for every server, but they are ONLY GM's on that server, if not they are a GM on like one or two other servers.The 2 main gms (saphyr and greenster) already banned people for this on other servers, even friends. If i understood well there are 2 local gms by server and 2 main gms for every server, it means already 3 of the 4 gms associated with ares told it was bug abuse, you really need the answer from the 4th one ? I think you shouldn't hope for too much help from him.[/b]
there are 4? main GM's, i wanna say, but Greenster and Saphyr are two of them, who have access to all 13 worlds, who do some of the CSW's and stuff like that. The local GM's are the ones that host the Boss Events and PUS events.
same thing they do with koxp....screenshots are useless, its gm policy they cant ban without seeing it themselves or have conclusive fraps proof(where u can CLEARLY see the persons name and see what theyre doing)...then of course if the fraps file too large they wont look at it eitherWhat so they just want people to submit it so they can look at pretty screenshots of people and delos?
read between the lines numb nuts.[/b]
then u also have to consider maybe he was talkign about a different bug before the ss was taken and THATS what the gm was saying to report, for what we see of the convo he only says its a bug and theyre trying to work on it
Feel free to use recatapulting if you want but he clearly said it was a bug so abusing this bug means you are a bug abuser. Don't cry if you get banned.
You really need to think before you post. I like how most ignore you. I dont have much against you, but you look like a fucking moron here.same thing they do with koxp....screenshots are useless, its gm policy they cant ban without seeing it themselves or have conclusive fraps proof(where u can CLEARLY see the persons name and see what theyre doing)...then of course if the fraps file too large they wont look at it either
then u also have to consider maybe he was talkign about a different bug before the ss was taken and THATS what the gm was saying to report, for what we see of the convo he only says its a bug and theyre trying to work on it[/b]
its bannable but w/o active game masters at csw time ,nothing to do ._.
We'll see if sending ss or fraps to CS will work, what is sure now is that at least 3 gms that can log on ares (Saphyr, Greenster and now CaliMaestro) think it is bug abuse. If people keep using it then i suppose that means they love being bug abusers...perhaps a ban will help them to grow up.its bannable but w/o active game masters at csw time ,nothing to do ._.[/b]
If GM's consider it a bug and abuse to do so, where does it say it in the TOS? Is there an announcement on the website? Whatever GM tells your friend, you post on a fansite and it's considered to be an official rule that everyone should know? I don't think so.
If they really mean it, they will make an announcement in-game, on their website, on official forums...at least one of these. Personally I don't really care whether or not it's a bug, we can live without doing it so don't go all out on my statement; however if GM's make up NEW rules, they need to let the public know. Telling one guy in a PM is not the way that's done.
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