tears of kravidis upgrading to +9 vs trina upgrading

[Kallop]

It's a separate sequence if you separate them. This probability represents a continuous sequence of events.

Well yeah, but probability is almost philosophical due to it's nature. It depends on which theory you support in the end.

[keven2552]

I think +5 to +11rev is very hard but i think you have more chance ...

[Shako]

After reading all the thread, i still wonder in % not counting the noahs u spent.
Which one give you the best % to upgrade an items to +9

[Diver]

mathematically spoken you have a probability of 1,5625% to succeed from +5 rev to +11 rev, implying there are no other factors (for instance a buggy code) influencing the upgrade chance.

[vladsaul]

i see upgrade +9 rebirth

[Masta]

Burning items does in fact effect the upgrade chances regardless what people are saying.

If chances are 50%, the system is set that after 100 upgrades it will be 50/50.

That's why on many server [talking about privates] which using same upgrade standards as official, you can see that at 85% upgrade rate you are going to suceed 15 in a row, and than fail 4 in a row because system is using you to make the percents at 85%.


That's why when making a high + item, you can increase your chances, by having more item than the system of % can actually burn for you.
If chance to +9 is 10%, it means that 1 out of 10 should suceed, and yes it is true, but only at 100 items.
So if at 10% chances, you have 14 items to upgrade, you are 95% going to suceed one, unless someone stealing your upgrades from the back.

If anvil is empty, fresh from restart and you have 100 items at +8 with 10% chance you will make 10x +9.

But yeah burning middle class, low class, means nothing to the actual upgrade of high class item on it's own %.

[Shako]

Interesting tho

[vladsaul]

any video can see?

[Diver]

Burning items does in fact effect the upgrade chances regardless what people are saying.

If chances are 50%, the system is set that after 100 upgrades it will be 50/50.

That's why on many server [talking about privates] which using same upgrade standards as official, you can see that at 85% upgrade rate you are going to suceed 15 in a row, and than fail 4 in a row because system is using you to make the percents at 85%.


That's why when making a high + item, you can increase your chances, by having more item than the system of % can actually burn for you.
If chance to +9 is 10%, it means that 1 out of 10 should suceed, and yes it is true, but only at 100 items.
So if at 10% chances, you have 14 items to upgrade, you are 95% going to suceed one, unless someone stealing your upgrades from the back.

If anvil is empty, fresh from restart and you have 100 items at +8 with 10% chance you will make 10x +9.

But yeah burning middle class, low class, means nothing to the actual upgrade of high class item on it's own %.

can you back this vague theory up?

[SkyHunter]

Burning items does in fact effect the upgrade chances regardless what people are saying.

If chances are 50%, the system is set that after 100 upgrades it will be 50/50.

That's why on many server [talking about privates] which using same upgrade standards as official, you can see that at 85% upgrade rate you are going to suceed 15 in a row, and than fail 4 in a row because system is using you to make the percents at 85%.


That's why when making a high + item, you can increase your chances, by having more item than the system of % can actually burn for you.
If chance to +9 is 10%, it means that 1 out of 10 should suceed, and yes it is true, but only at 100 items.
So if at 10% chances, you have 14 items to upgrade, you are 95% going to suceed one, unless someone stealing your upgrades from the back.

If anvil is empty, fresh from restart and you have 100 items at +8 with 10% chance you will make 10x +9.

But yeah burning middle class, low class, means nothing to the actual upgrade of high class item on it's own %.

any proof other than your own brain?

[Breezy123]

Burning items does in fact effect the upgrade chances regardless what people are saying.

If chances are 50%, the system is set that after 100 upgrades it will be 50/50.

That's why on many server [talking about privates] which using same upgrade standards as official, you can see that at 85% upgrade rate you are going to suceed 15 in a row, and than fail 4 in a row because system is using you to make the percents at 85%.


That's why when making a high + item, you can increase your chances, by having more item than the system of % can actually burn for you.
If chance to +9 is 10%, it means that 1 out of 10 should suceed, and yes it is true, but only at 100 items.
So if at 10% chances, you have 14 items to upgrade, you are 95% going to suceed one, unless someone stealing your upgrades from the back.

If anvil is empty, fresh from restart and you have 100 items at +8 with 10% chance you will make 10x +9.

But yeah burning middle class, low class, means nothing to the actual upgrade of high class item on it's own %.

[SPANKME]

If you want to be really specific about improving your items, then go with tears and start climbing that ladder towards reb +11.
This way you will improve your weapon after each successful ugprade instead of staying on flat +8.

[razor]

But yeah burning middle class, low class, means nothing to the actual upgrade of high class item on it's own %.

This is where your credibility goes down the drain. Are you gonna tell me anvil recognizes low, mid and high class items as separate entities regarding this supposed probability of yours? lol.

[Masta]

This is where your credibility goes down the drain. Are you gonna tell me anvil recognizes low, mid and high class items as separate entities regarding this supposed probability of yours? lol.

Yes, unless you use trina on them as well.

[Shako]

This is where your credibility goes down the drain. Are you gonna tell me anvil recognizes low, mid and high class items as separate entities regarding this supposed probability of yours? lol.

opps lol
anyway my luck is always 0% as i burn +7's trying to add ele on it.