KOL & PunkBuster Anti-Cheat Software ? hmm

[bukovski]

Its oficial info :

K2 Network is committed to putting “Gamers First.” One important aspect of this commitment is working to minimize cheating. We are excited to announce that we have partnered with PunkBuster (www.punkbuster.com) to offer the players of Knight Online (www.knightonlineworld.com) a level of anti-cheat software previously unavailable in any MMO.

PunkBuster is the leader of the anti-cheat software industry. Their proven solutions have been implemented in many of the world’s most popular online games. Integrating the PunkBuster proprietary anti-cheat software with Knight Online, we will incorporate the best protection available with the best game online.

In order to test the integration of PunkBuster’s anti-cheat software with K2 Knight Online, we invite players to participate in the “PunkBuster Open Beta.” Since this will be the Open Beta phase, Customer Support will only be handled via FAQ and Forum posting.

To see the initial FAQs please visit http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=faq-kol.php.

Open Beta Launch will be released soon! We hope you will take the opportunity to test the PunkBuster Software and to help keep the world of Knight Online safe and enjoyable for everyone.

Thank you,
Knight Online Team



do you think this will stop dupers, macroers .... ? I hope so ,

but i see a litle problem on punk b site :
For individual players who wish to register their full playing name, the hosting fee is US $1 per month. For clans, guilds and other groups, the hosting fee is US $2 per month. For administrative reasons, fees are collected on an annual basis. All major credit cards are accepted via a secure web payment form and since we use PayPal as our payment network, other forms of payment and currency translation are also handled accordingly.

??? so now i must pay or not?


p.s. Again i hope K2 will stop all ilegal ppl to play KO, join beta test ....

[Deillon]

Originally posted by bukovski

but i see a litle problem on punk b *site : *
For individual players who wish to register their full playing name, the hosting fee is US $1 per month. For clans, guilds and other groups, the hosting fee is US $2 per month. For administrative reasons, fees are collected on an annual basis. All major credit cards are accepted via a secure web payment form and since we use PayPal as our payment network, other forms of payment and currency translation are also handled accordingly.

I think that's only if you want to make sure that nobody else takes your name, so if you do it, every game which has punkbuster reserves your name.

[:911:]

dupe need program ? hmmmm :wub:

[tolgahan]

Originally posted by :911:
dupe need program ? hmmmm :wub:

No i dont think so ..GM gives permission people to save their chars.they should solve that "save problem"

[EvilG]

Duping = game bug, so punkbuster or any other anti-cheat software won't help.

[Devile]

Duping, DB hacking, etc. won't be stoped by punkbuster cause they are game bugs are security problems, not hacks.

And to be honest, I prefer hackshield. Yes, its annoying as hell, but with the proper feedback can do the job. On the other hand, punkbuster will do the same but with hundreds of sites that have already enough info on how to bypass it. Go look arround for HackShield info and u will find close to NOTHING.

I'm not a fan of "security via obscurity" but in this case im think is a much better choice HS over PB. Yet we have to see how this will workout.

[ballzy]

some of the features sound nice though. how many will we have you have to wonder:

Major Features in PunkBuster™

(some editions of PunkBuster™ do not have all of these features)

-Real-time scanning of memory by PB Client on players' computers searching for known hacks/cheats

-Throttled two-tiered background auto-update system using multiple Internet Master Servers to provide end-user security ensuring that no false or corrupted updates can be installed on players' computers

-Frequent status reports (highly encrypted) are sent to the PB Server by all players and the PB Server raises a violation when necessary which causes the offending player to be removed from the game and all other players are informed of the violation

-PB Admins can also manually remove players from the game for a specified number of minutes or permanently ban if desired

-PB Servers can optionally be configured to randomly check player settings looking for known exploits of the game engine

-PB Admins can request actual screenshot samples from specific players and/or can configure the PB Server to randomly grab screenshot samples from players during gameplay

-An optional "bad name" facility is provided so that PB Admins can prevent players from using offensive player names containing unwanted profanity or racial slurs

-Search functions are provided for PB Admins who wish to search player's keybindings and scripts for anything that may be known to exploit the game

-The PunkBuster™ Player Power facility can be configured to allow players to self-administer game servers when the Server Administrator is not present entirely without the need for passwords

-PB Servers have an optional built-in mini http web server interface that allows the game server to be remotely administered via a web browser from anywhere over the Internet

[The_Good_Doctor__]

PB Admins can also manually remove players from the game for a specified number of minutes or permanently ban if desired

1. I don't like this because any schmo with a grudge or just having a crappy day could abuse it.
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PB Admins can request actual screenshot samples from specific players and/or can configure the PB Server to randomly grab screenshot samples from players during gameplay

2. This borders on invasion of privacy. What If I have a merchant in the background and I'm watching my BDSM gay muslim hentai porn? Or is the above worded badly and that not possible?
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Search functions are provided for PB Admins who wish to search player's keybindings and scripts for anything that may be known to exploit the game

3. Keyboards, Keypads, and Gamepads. They all have versions which come packaged with drivers that allow keybindings. Right now I've got at microsoft keyboard which factory drivers allow macros, 2 game pads, and 2 mice, that are all partially or completely programable, with only factory software.
----While I don't support macroing, this is beginning to sound too invasive. It also leads me to the conclusion that alot of people might get banned simply for having something coinsidentally on the ban list, like say rr.(technichally comboing is a glitch exploitation, it's just ruled unbannable, for now.)

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-Frequent status reports (highly encrypted) are sent to the PB Server by all players and the PB Server raises a violation when necessary which causes the offending player to be removed from the game and all other players are informed of the violation

4. Something resembling a speed hack. It's called LAG, ironic actually, as it's also ironic that the game lags bad enough without sending out hightly encrypted reports, or when recieveing GM/Admin/WarCaptain announcements in the game.

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Those are the things that bug me the most about using an anti cheat system based on FPS games.
Maybe none of those options will be used, I don't know.
I just know I'm not paying for KO again untill PunkBuster gets ironed out and I know what stupid/incidental crap people can get banned for.

[Natazaku]

Originally posted by ballzy


-Real-time scanning of memory by PB Client on players' computers searching for known hacks/cheats *

They cant do it because it isnt in the User Agreement which will make them searching your computer or doing anything in it against the law.

btw that feature is in aa and doesnt work lol

[phantomlink]

What cant stop them from changing their User Agreement as they see fit? I believe in it they said they can change it at any time without notice.

[ballzy]

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-Real-time scanning of memory by PB Client on players' computers searching for known hacks/cheats *

They cant do it because it isnt in the User Agreement which will make them searching your computer or doing anything in it against the law.

btw that feature is in aa and doesnt work lol[/b]

baba lawyers for teh win. They can do whatever they want. read the agreement again. Don't be mad cuz you wanna macro.

[bull]

punkbuster has actually accomplished things in other games like Enemy Territory, but i doubt they can help this game out much.

[ballzy]

I guess we will find out won't we? I'm adopting the wait and see attitude. Cautious optimism if you will.

[TheKingOfTheSwing]

punkbuster is going to be a hella lot better than hackshield cause hackshield is basicaly something they looked up on google i believe. If anyones played aa they do a pretty good job and yes theres still hackers but they do get caught.

[Natazaku]

on aa theres a hack to change ur name and then they cant kick u cause its trying to kick ur old name. u could go and cheat and get ur hd sn banned and go in and change ur name and it will say its trying to ban u