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What is better shard +8 or cleaver +9?

This is a discussion on What is better shard +8 or cleaver +9? within the General Chat forums, part of the Knight Online (ko4life.com) category; Originally posted by oncemore+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(oncemore)</div> Originally posted by PADDY+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PADDY) <!--QuoteBegin-oncemore @ <!--QuoteBegin-PADDY a bardish +9 did like 100 - ...
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    Originally posted by oncemore+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(oncemore)</div>
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    a bardish +9 did like 100 - 200 more damge than a raptor +8 per hit in pvp

    and that had less ap than the raptor... the poison made all the difference


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    i tried the two... why else do you think people complained i hit too hard? :P[/b]
    Raptor+8 is 187/80
    Bardish+9 is 184/90

    I can believe that the extra 10 elemental can make up for the loss of 3ap, but adding an extra 200dmg on top? rofflecopter. Then again, i guess it depends on who you tested, if it was a naked duffed mage and your spamming 2k dmg, a 200dmg increase isn't a very high percent. :P

    But if your hitting a warrior for 500dmg with a raptor, and then hit 700dmg with bardish, haha. xD[/b][/quote]

    the difference was more noticeable against people with high defence

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    Originally posted by ChosenAngel+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ChosenAngel)</div>
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    stiletto +10 :wub:
    sword breaker +10 u mean h43r:[/b]
    shard +10 u mean.

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    Originally posted by idefix+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(idefix)</div>
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    stiletto +10 :wub:


    sword breaker +10 u mean h43r:
    shard +10 u mean.[/b]
    Ftw!

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    Originally posted by PADDY+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PADDY)</div>
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    a bardish +9 did like 100 - 200 more damge than a raptor +8 per hit in pvp

    and that had less ap than the raptor... the poison made all the difference


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    i tried the two... why else do you think people complained i hit too hard? :P
    Raptor+8 is 187/80
    Bardish+9 is 184/90

    I can believe that the extra 10 elemental can make up for the loss of 3ap, but adding an extra 200dmg on top? rofflecopter. Then again, i guess it depends on who you tested, if it was a naked duffed mage and your spamming 2k dmg, a 200dmg increase isn't a very high percent. :P

    But if your hitting a warrior for 500dmg with a raptor, and then hit 700dmg with bardish, haha. xD[/b]
    the difference was more noticeable against people with high defence [/b][/quote]

    Think about what your saying h43r:

    T> dragon slayer+8 and coins for bardish+9

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    Sorry paddy but thats a huge load of crap. Not even a raptor+9 hits 200 more damage per hit than a raptor +8. Care to explain how 10 elemental damage can produce so damage even after an AP loss? ... You know that when the weapon is red you have to take it to sundries and do a repair right.

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    Originally posted by oncemore+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(oncemore)</div>
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    a bardish +9 did like 100 - 200 more damge than a raptor +8 per hit in pvp

    and that had less ap than the raptor... the poison made all the difference


    LOL


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    i tried the two... why else do you think people complained i hit too hard? :P


    Raptor+8 is 187/80
    Bardish+9 is 184/90

    I can believe that the extra 10 elemental can make up for the loss of 3ap, but adding an extra 200dmg on top? rofflecopter. Then again, i guess it depends on who you tested, if it was a naked duffed mage and your spamming 2k dmg, a 200dmg increase isn't a very high percent. :P

    But if your hitting a warrior for 500dmg with a raptor, and then hit 700dmg with bardish, haha. xD
    the difference was more noticeable against people with high defence [/b]
    Think about what your saying h43r:

    T> dragon slayer+8 and coins for bardish+9[/b][/quote]

    please tell me they drop Dragon Slayers now ^^^^^????? really?

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    Originally posted by oncemore+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(oncemore)</div>
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    a bardish +9 did like 100 - 200 more damge than a raptor +8 per hit in pvp

    and that had less ap than the raptor... the poison made all the difference


    LOL


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    i tried the two... why else do you think people complained i hit too hard? :P


    Raptor+8 is 187/80
    Bardish+9 is 184/90

    I can believe that the extra 10 elemental can make up for the loss of 3ap, but adding an extra 200dmg on top? rofflecopter. Then again, i guess it depends on who you tested, if it was a naked duffed mage and your spamming 2k dmg, a 200dmg increase isn't a very high percent. :P

    But if your hitting a warrior for 500dmg with a raptor, and then hit 700dmg with bardish, haha. xD
    the difference was more noticeable against people with high defence [/b]
    Think about what your saying h43r:

    T> dragon slayer+8 and coins for bardish+9[/b][/quote]

    do i make the facts? nah i just report on them

    chose to believe me, or not really doesnt matter, but the biggest difference i saw was really 200 on a guy with a priest with the level 70 shield

    btw felankor ring helps too with the added dex seemingly upping the 'crit' rate on hits

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    Originally posted by Proximus+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Proximus)</div>
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    stiletto +10 :wub:


    sword breaker +10 u mean h43r:
    shard +10 u mean.[/b]
    Ftw![/b][/quote]

    you fools cant read? I SAID STILETTO! h43r:

    j/[email protected] <_<

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    cleaver +9 ftw, ppl think your noob then you kill em easily

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    I have heard that weapon level affects damage
    wrong . one of ko myths .

    and I don't like to look noobish
    just stupid .

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    im trying to make +9 cleaver, then ill post the result B)

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    Cleaver +9

    Chusco made a cleaver+9, but kept using shard+8, don't ask me why?
    He must know something we don't hes 1 of the best sin on server

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    Originally posted by mentalstamina
    I have heard that weapon level affects damage
    wrong . one of ko myths .

    and I don't like to look noobish
    just stupid .
    Considering that i have seen 2 separate tests that both showed that it DOES affect damage, I would think twice before discarding it as a myth. But, i guess you are just a retarded noob huh...

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    Originally posted by h3h3h3
    I have heard that weapon level affects damage, and that they would both hit around the same. *

    I think i would probably use a shard +8 because the difference in AP is marginal, and I don't like to look noobish.
    would rather look like a noob and hit harder and have more skill then just look good to impressed and get owned like u do

    sorry if i hurt your feelings but your thinking is that of a ego maniac is all i am say but other then that ur right shard looks better

    cleaver +9 all the way it does a few more damage with people with low resists

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    i think the answer to ur topic is whether or not ur able to namechange to "TheButcher"

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