Who thinks new patch will revolutionize PK in usko?

**elucid** · 06-04-2008, 07:06 PM

Care to explain why you think so?
I beg to agrue against you, and I will cite valid reasons.
#1. What is the point of a masters quest if you can just buy everything you need. Did you infact become a skilled master? NO, you just bought stuff

#2. Persons who attain their masters would have to partner with others who are higher in lvl, or equal to their lvl and work as a group to get the gems they need. This will increase cooperativeness between clan members and members of the orc/human nation.

#3. This will increase amount of people in CZ bowl to allow for exciting PK. (If you can just buy gems, eventually these doom spawns will be empty... and gem prices are going to be cheaper than the NPC value LOL)

#4. Higher lvl players would love having a constant supply of noobs at the doom soldier spawns. This will force the lower lvl players to go in solid party's of 8 and attempt to take control of a spawn. It will also force the lower lvls to get into parties with 70+ players.

I can go on and on. I see a lot more benefit to make gems non-tradeable than to continue to allow people to just buy their masters[/b]

Response to #1 : You should have a choice to buy your masters or farm them. You earn money to obtain your masters whether you farm them or buy them your still earning them because you earned the money to buy them... one way or another

Response to #2 : People already do this, also it would not increase it would just make people be more greedy and farm solo so they can obtain their masters before anyone else.

Response to #3 : It wouldn't be exciting it would be a 1 hit fest... their is nothing exciting about that just easy NP. Thats all well and good but I'm pretty sure most people would rather have a challenge in CZ then just noobs to rape every second.

Response to #4 : They would only love it for a while and then I'm sure they'd get fed up after a while of just killing noobs. It wouldn't Force them to get into parties with 70+ because the 70+'s wouldn't party them.

Like I said before, People are still earning their masters because they work for the money that they buy them with. There are other easier ways to get more people into Colony Zone.

**Rad_Archer** · 06-04-2008, 07:14 PM

All that will happen is that koxpers will farm them all day all night and they will become worthless. And Thus allowing anyone to buy them and no one will need to go farm them, esp on low levels...

oldboy · 06-04-2008, 07:24 PM

All that will happen is that koxpers will farm them all day all night and they will become worthless. And Thus allowing anyone to buy them and no one will need to go farm them, esp on low levels...[/b]

no it wont..maybe in c west but in active servers theres usually always ppl in cz on both servers....also it takes a while to kill them 76 warrior no wolf hitting 1.7k took about 10+ hits so i doubt they will venture there but stick to their gavolts/mastodon ect

**bknight** · 06-04-2008, 07:33 PM

Care to explain why you think so?
I beg to agrue against you, and I will cite valid reasons.
#1. What is the point of a masters quest if you can just buy everything you need. Did you infact become a skilled master? NO, you just bought stuff

#2. Persons who attain their masters would have to partner with others who are higher in lvl, or equal to their lvl and work as a group to get the gems they need. This will increase cooperativeness between clan members and members of the orc/human nation.

#3. This will increase amount of people in CZ bowl to allow for exciting PK. (If you can just buy gems, eventually these doom spawns will be empty... and gem prices are going to be cheaper than the NPC value LOL)

#4. Higher lvl players would love having a constant supply of noobs at the doom soldier spawns. This will force the lower lvl players to go in solid party's of 8 and attempt to take control of a spawn. It will also force the lower lvls to get into parties with 70+ players.

I can go on and on. I see a lot more benefit to make gems non-tradeable than to continue to allow people to just buy their masters[/b]

i didnt read what you said because none of it matters. if you make gems only in ardream/cz bowl pk will be 100% destroyed. 24/7 camp those things. sure its nice for the first couple days, woot we killed the noobs getting gems. then 3 days later they figure out that they cant farm there gems because theirs 15 lvl 80's sitting at them. people get coin for there gem's. big deal.... they buy the other items they need for quest aswell. dont forget buying and farming are just about the same thing, just less time. not to mention if you got tons of people needing gems for quest, and all you have is a few doom's to kill for them, that dont even drop that incredibly often (better than werewolves). itll get pretty stupid.

**Kronos** · 06-04-2008, 07:43 PM

The only thing that can change this game in good way is new owner of license ,when k2 does sth good you keep forgetting how this game its shitty indeed. This game need major changes not fucking details changing once a year. I remember when I said on clan chat : "K2 is getting better now" someone said "It had to get better coz its couldn't get any worse".He was right.

**Rad_Archer** · 06-04-2008, 08:01 PM

no it wont..maybe in c west but in active servers theres usually always ppl in cz on both servers....also it takes a while to kill them 76 warrior no wolf hitting 1.7k took about 10+ hits so i doubt they will venture there but stick to their gavolts/mastodon ect[/b]

Right, the same way they haven't been farming isloon, felenkor, flame golems, Fa's, greed, lust, envy, ghost warrior, etc etc etc etc...they farm anywhere and everywhere they can to make coins and money, and they will farm gems the same way.

**Tyrano** · 06-04-2008, 08:01 PM

this is good cause more newbies farming and that means more nps for me

**Rad_Archer** · 06-04-2008, 08:02 PM

no it wont..maybe in c west but in active servers theres usually always ppl in cz on both servers....also it takes a while to kill them 76 warrior no wolf hitting 1.7k took about 10+ hits so i doubt they will venture there but stick to their gavolts/mastodon ect[/b]

Right, the same way they haven't been farming isloon, felenkor, flame golems, Fa's, greed, lust, envy, ghost warrior, etc etc etc etc...they farm anywhere and everywhere they can to make coins and money, and they will farm gems the same way.

**Rad_Archer** · 06-04-2008, 08:09 PM

lag

oldboy · 06-04-2008, 09:00 PM

Right, the same way they haven't been farming isloon((where they hide in the walls when legit clans come), felenkor((where they do it on server 2) , flame golems, Fa's, greed, lust, envy, ghost warrior(all at places that arent populated or wallhack where legit ppl cant kill them), etc etc etc etc...they farm anywhere and everywhere they can to make coins and money, and they will farm gems the same way.[/b]

k2's got the right idea for once...theres nowhere to hide in walls in cz and macros dont work so it looks pretty gold farmer free

**Rad_Archer** · 06-04-2008, 09:16 PM

k2's got the right idea for once...theres nowhere to hide in walls in cz and macros dont work so it looks pretty gold farmer free[/b]

We'll see...I just don't think it's that easy.

**deathbob** · 06-05-2008, 01:43 AM

Care to explain why you think so?
I beg to agrue against you, and I will cite valid reasons.
#1. What is the point of a masters quest if you can just buy everything you need. Did you infact become a skilled master? NO, you just bought stuff

Someone did infact earn the money to purchase the gems, whether selling drops or farming for hours. Its not like the merchants wanted no noahs for them.

#2. Persons who attain their masters would have to partner with others who are higher in lvl, or equal to their lvl and work as a group to get the gems they need. This will increase cooperativeness between clan members and members of the orc/human nation.

That is the reason why you join a clan anyways. You need them for boss hunting, pk, xp, and overall company. You could play this game alone but it would become boring extremely quick.

#3. This will increase amount of people in CZ bowl to allow for exciting PK. (If you can just buy gems, eventually these doom spawns will be empty... and gem prices are going to be cheaper than the NPC value LOL)

Even a horrible player like myself with a 70+ mastered char with decent items, and maybe one more person would rock a party of lvl 60 non mastered chars. To much difference, unless they had gear out the ass. Which wouldnt make any sense to have amazing gear but no master.. No if anything it would make pk extremely dull.

#4. Higher lvl players would love having a constant supply of noobs at the doom soldier spawns. This will force the lower lvl players to go in solid party's of 8 and attempt to take control of a spawn. It will also force the lower lvls to get into parties with 70+ players.

Why would a lvl 70 char pick up a lvl 60 non mastered? To be nice, or maybe some alternative reward...like noah's. If the alternative reward is noah's then why even make them non tradeable to begin with.

I can go on and on. I see a lot more benefit to make gems non-tradeable than to continue to allow people to just buy their masters[/b]

Im sure you can go on and on, Its an argument based soley on where you expect kindness and generosity that you rarely or wont find in this game.

Was it really so bad before with the macroers and such farming them, and getting the gems less than 1m. Some of us had to trade a roc plus more just to get mastered at lvl 70. Whereas before just lvling to 60 you would get about half of what you needed, just from macrodious and smilo's and such.