That flag don't match. It should be red with a moon and star in it.
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That flag don't match. It should be red with a moon and star in it.
Bet your glad you didn't change your entry now.
dam lucky gratz anyways
When the americans arrived at Ivo Jima, they had already dropped hundred of bombs at the island. Resuling in thousands of civil people beeing killed.Why don't you enlighten us.[/b]
the Americans wanted Ivo Jima for the simple reason that the flight bewteen Ivo Jima and Tokyo would be 50% less. Making american bomb planes a bigger threat to japan. So basically they killed thousands of civil people for nothing.
Oh, when they first put the flag up there and went down, the photographer got the brilliant idea to take a picture of it. So they went all the way up agian, took the flag half down and up again. So the picture is actually not the "original" flag rising.
it's not Civil People, It's CivilianWhen the americans arrived at Ivo Jima, they had already dropped hundred of bombs at the island. Resuling in thousands of civil people beeing killed.
the Americans wanted Ivo Jima for the simple reason that the flight bewteen Ivo Jima and Tokyo would be 50% less. Making american bomb planes a bigger threat to japan. So basically they killed thousands of civil people for nothing.
Oh, when they first put the flag up there and went down, the photographer got the brilliant idea to take a picture of it. So they went all the way up agian, took the flag half down and up again. So the picture is actually not the "original" flag rising.[/b]
And here is the full history taken from wiki:
First Flag:
The famous picture taken by Rosenthal actually captured the second flag-raising event of the day. A U.S. flag was first raised atop Suribachi soon after it was captured early in the morning (around 10:20) of February 23, 1945. 2nd Battalion Commander Chandler Johnson ordered Captain Dave E. Severance to send a platoon to go take the mountain.[4] Severance, the commander of Easy Company (2nd Battalion, 28th Marines, 5th Marine Division), ordered First Lieutenant Harold G. Schrier to lead the patrol. Just before Schrier was to head up the mountain Commander Chandler Johnson handed him a flag saying, "if you get to the top put it up." Johnson's adjutant, second lieutenant Greeley Wells, had taken the 54-by-28 inch (137-by-71 cm) American flag from their transport ship, the USS Missoula (APA-211).[5] The patrol reached the top without incident and the flag was raised, and photographed by Staff Sergeant Louis R. Lowery, a photographer with Leatherneck magazine.[6][7][8] Others present at this first flag raising included Corporal Charles W. Lindberg, Platoon Sergeant Ernest I. Thomas Jr., Sergeant Henry O. "Hank" Hansen, and Private First Class James Michels.[9] However, this flag was too small to be seen easily from the nearby landing beaches.
The Secretary of the Navy, James Forrestal, had decided the previous night that he wanted to go ashore and witness the final stage of the fight for the mountain. Now, under a stern commitment to take orders from Howlin' Mad Smith, the secretary was churning ashore in the company of the blunt, earthy general. Their boat touched the beach just after the flag went up, and the mood among the high command turned jubilant. Gazing upward, at the red, white, and blue speck, Forrestal remarked to Smith: "Holland, the raising of that flag on Suribachi means a Marine Corps for the next five hundred years."
Forrestal was so taken with fervor of the moment that he decided he wanted the Suribachi flag as a souvenir. The news of this wish did not sit well with [2nd Battalion Commander] Chandler Johnson, whose temperament was every bit as fiery as Howlin Mad's. 'To hell with that!' the colonel spat when the message reached him. The flag belonged to the battalion, as far as Johnson was concerned. He decided to secure it as soon as possible, and dispatched his assistant operations officer, Lieutenant Ted Tuttle, to the beach to scare up a replacement flag. As an afterthought, Johnson called after Tuttle "And make it a bigger one."[10]
The roar of the Marines on the islands and ship horns blasting away alerted the Japanese who up to this point had stayed in their cave bunkers. The Americans quickly found themselves under fire from Japanese troops but were able to quickly eliminate the threat with the only casualty being Lowery's camera.[11]
Second flag:
On orders from Colonel Chandler Johnson, passed on by Captain Severance, Sergeant Michael Strank, Corporal Harlon H. Block, Private First Class Franklin R. Sousley and Private First Class Ira H. Hayes spent the morning of the 23rd laying a telephone wire to the top of Suribachi. Severance also dispatched Private First Class Rene A. Gagnon, a runner, to the command post for fresh SCR-300 walkie-talkie batteries.
Meanwhile, according to the official Marine Corps history, Tuttle had found a larger (96-by-56 inch) flag in nearby Tank Landing Ship LST 779, made his way back to the command post, and gave it to Johnson. Johnson, in turn, gave it to Gagnon with orders to take it back up Suribachi and raise it.[12] The official Marine Corps history of the event is that Tuttle received the flag from Ensign Alan Wood of LST 779, who in turn had received the flag from a supply depot in Pearl Harbor. However, the Coast Guard Historian's Office supports claims made by Robert Resnick, who served aboard LST 758. "Before he died in November 2004, Resnick said Gagnon came aboard LST-758 the morning of Feb. 23 looking for a flag. Resnick said he grabbed one from a bunting box and asked permission from commanding officer Lt. Felix Molenda to donate it. Resnick kept quiet about his participation until 2001."[13] The flag itself was sewn by Mabel Sauvageau, a worker at the "flag loft" of the Mare Island Naval Shipyard.[14]
A version of the photo indicating the six men who raised the flag: Ira Hayes, Franklin Sousley (†), Michael Strank (†), Rene Gagnon, John Bradley, Harlon Block (†)-(†) = killed on Iwo Jima.
A version of the photo indicating the six men who raised the flag: Ira Hayes, Franklin Sousley (†), Michael Strank (†), Rene Gagnon, John Bradley, Harlon Block (†)-(†) = killed on Iwo Jima.
The Marines reached the top of the mountain around noon, where Gagnon joined them. Despite the large numbers of Japanese troops in the immediate vicinity, the 40-man patrol made it to the top of the mountain without being fired at once, as the Japanese were under bombardment at the time.[15]
Rosenthal, along with Marine photographers Bob Campbell and Bill Genaust (who was killed in action nine days after the flag raising)[16] was climbing Suribachi at this time. On the way up, the trio met Lowery (the man who photographed the first flag raising). They had been considering turning around, but Lowery told them that the summit was an excellent vantage point from which to take pictures.[11]
Rosenthal's trio reached the summit as the Marines were attaching the flag to an old Japanese water pipe. Rosenthal put down his Speed Graphic camera (which was set to 1/400th of a second shutter speed, with the f-stop between 8 and 16) on the ground so he could pile rocks to stand on for a better vantage point. In doing so, he nearly missed the shot. Along with Navy Pharmacist's Mate Second Class John H. Bradley, the five Marines began raising the U. S. flag. Realizing he was about to miss it, Rosenthal quickly swung his camera up and snapped the photograph without using the viewfinder.[17] Ten years after the flag-raising, Rosenthal wrote:
Out of the corner of my eye, I had seen the men start the flag up. I swung my camera and shot the scene. That is how the picture was taken, and when you take a picture like that, you don't come away saying you got a great shot. You don't know.
Bill Genaust, who was standing almost shoulder-to-shoulder with Rosenthal about thirty yards from the flag raising, was shooting motion-picture film during the flag-raising. His film captures the flag raising at an almost-identical angle to Rosenthal's famous shot.
Hope they ban you.[/b]
jealousThis just makes me sick. How they chose That picture to be a winner. Do they really know the story behind that picture?
And they award it with a fuckin rof?
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umm from history web site : "Because all the civilians had been evacuated, there were no civilian casualties at Iwo Jima"When the americans arrived at Ivo Jima, they had already dropped hundred of bombs at the island. Resuling in thousands of civil people beeing killed.
the Americans wanted Ivo Jima for the simple reason that the flight bewteen Ivo Jima and Tokyo would be 50% less. Making american bomb planes a bigger threat to japan. So basically they killed thousands of civil people for nothing.[/b]
learn2history
anyway gratz on the banner and the rof
knight online world w/ a us flag oO
Its memorial day soon. That is a US holiday.knight online world w/ a us flag oO[/b]
noshitzIts memorial day soon. That is a US holiday.[/b]
but its still has some aura of superiority embedded in it
i like it and all just funny
grats dude, i never knew k2 actually hosted events xD i guess they use these "events" to get ppl away from ko4life and towards kol forums xD
Dude.. just keep quiet about it if you do not know the whole story.When the americans arrived at Ivo Jima, they had already dropped hundred of bombs at the island. Resuling in thousands of civil people beeing killed.
the Americans wanted Ivo Jima for the simple reason that the flight bewteen Ivo Jima and Tokyo would be 50% less. Making american bomb planes a bigger threat to japan. So basically they killed thousands of civil people for nothing.
Oh, when they first put the flag up there and went down, the photographer got the brilliant idea to take a picture of it. So they went all the way up agian, took the flag half down and up again. So the picture is actually not the "original" flag rising.[/b]
Also very nicely done. You were very smart when you did that. To bad on there site the flag pole is a little messed up :P
You get ROF from winning k2`s contests? woot..
gratz
For anyone who's interested in the flag raising and Iwo Jima (INCREDIBLY interesting)
You should read Flags of Our Fathers, and Fly Boys.
Both AMAZING books by the same author, from the land (Flags of Our Fathers) and air (Fly Boys) perspectives of Iwo Jima.
Really, brilliant books.
It's amazing what happened there.
Anyways, congratulations on winning the contest, enjoy the ROF!
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thats sick GRATZ man your very lucky h34r:
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