Can run Usko on Linux?

[NoUseAName]

Hi, somebody can tell me, Can i run Usko on linux (Madriva Linux 2006)?.

I wanna change my OS and i play KO, but in some forum say "linux is not friendly with the games ", if somebody have linux and play KO pls post the method .

Thks....

[sexa]

executable files in linux and windows are kinda different. there was no such a thing when i was last dealing with linux but maybe now there is. look for a windows emulator which is working on linux. even if u find such a thing (dont think exists) i guess u wont be able to run such a game on.

so my idea is no u wont be able

[Devile]

I remember WineX supported Direct3D games but tried to google it and it sent me to:

http://www.transgaming.com/products_linux.php

Guess that company bought that project. I think its still free. U can try it.

I'm a Linux freak but I never use Linux as desktop, on for servers.

[Alize]

I want to ask and something else. Does it metters wether it will be Ubunto or Gnom or whatever. Honestly i dun wanna pay 100 $ for full Linux, i wanna dl from somewhere for free ... so as far as i know i just have to dl from somewhere some packs and codecs to play movies and do some things on the pc ... moreover Linux is quite secure ... but would i run some programs on it and games ofc ... or i would also have to dl some things fo this linux. At the office we are working on Linux but only for the internet company program, so i dun have any idea about the movies... games ... and other shits. Any idea what kind of things i have to dl ... from where .. and which Linux is best ?

[Flippy]

Alize i though u were a geek that knows everything about anything ? :rollseyes:

[Devile]

Originally posted by Alize
I want to ask and something else. Does it metters wether it will be Ubunto or Gnom or whatever. Honestly i dun wanna pay 100 $ for full Linux, i wanna dl from somewhere for free ... so as far as i know i just have to dl from somewhere some packs and codecs to play movies and do some things on the pc ... moreover Linux is quite secure ... but would i run some programs on it and games ofc ... or i would also have to dl some things fo this linux. At the office we are working on Linux but only for the internet company program, so i dun have any idea about the movies... games ... and other shits. Any idea what kind of things i have to dl ... from where .. and which Linux is best ?

Yes Linux is more secure than Windows in general but all depends on the user. Linux can be as insecure as Windows is the user doesnt know how to use it. Having Linux doesnt mean u wont get hacked, on the contrary, it can be quite a nightmare, so unless u have some experience on Linux, I dont suggest u fully replace your desktop with it.

A better way to learn and test it is just install VMWare Workstation and install Linux on a Virtual Machine, so u dont have to format your Windows. It's gonna work similar to the real deal. There u can mess with it all u want, without the risk of fucking something up. Direct3D games or any 3D application require a special configuration on VMWare and it will run extremely slow, but everything else will run perfect. The idea is to get used to the interfase and learn how Linux works. It's completely different to Windows. There are many desktops that look very similar to Windows, but its far from being the same.

About Linux versions. Linux is only 1 and its defined by the kernel version, which is the core of Linux. The kernel alone doesnt do anything. U need utilities and applications to have a complete operating system, so different developer groups put together several applications on CDs and make what is known as distributions. SuSE, RedHat, Fedora, Ubuntu are Linux distributions. They are all Linux but differ on the applications they have installed, where they have them installed, versions, etc. Some are more user friendly, some are less, but they all have a Graphic Interface called X Windows. On top of it, u can have several desktops like Gnome or KDE and those can have several themes, which u prolly are familiar with since lots of them try to be similar to Windows.

Most desktop users go for Fedora, Gentoo or Ubuntu lately. Is a matter of tastes. I only use comercial versions of Linux (Redhat Enterprise) cause I only work with servers. As desktop I use Windows cause I dont see Linux as a desktop replacement yet. My most used applications on Windows are games and those dont run as fast as in Windows, so no point on even considering moving to Linux there. I suggest u try Fedora or Ubuntu since those are easy to setup and are more userfriendly.

Now, to the important part. Windows and Linux are totally different, even opposite. While Windows is a black box where u have pretty much no control over the OS, Linux is completely flexible and gives u total freedom. U can delete all your files, even the operating system ones or format while running, if u dont know what u are doing. U can change every single internal thing in Linux. U should master the console (like the command prompt) before using graphic applications on the desktop. That's the best or only way to know really Linux. U can use it just like Windows, but its much better if u understand the operating system internals instead of just being a "regular user" that uses MSN, Office and play a couple games. That's gonna save u a lot of time.

There are millions of free applications to do whatever u want in Linux, but dont expect games to be its strength anytime soon. Only company that developes great games for Linux is Id Software (Quake, Doom, etc.). For the rest of games, u will need some sort of emulators so u can run them. That means errors and performance problems cause those dont run native. Also, latest hardware for games (latest sound/video cards) have issues with Linux and u will have to manually change things in your kernel to support those. Thats why knowing the console is so important. For the most part of the time, u will work just like with Windows but sometimes u will require modifying OS files.

Most Linux distros are free and u only pay for the media and the manuals. If u dont wanna pay for that, u can download the ISOs and then burn the CDs, install from there.

[Dimeslime]

Yes, You can run usko in linux.

I have 2 machines.. One Gentoo Linux the other Ubuntu Linux, both running USKO with the latest wine.

For those new -> Linux is free, open source and a good alternative to windows.
For those who aren't new -> with the proper configuration, you can get ko running quite well...

Bye.

[__countess__]

I use linux only on servers too...
I did try the different GUI's from time to time but never even thought of replacing windows with linux on my 'gaming'-pc.

One emulator that usually comes with all distributions is wine, only played arround with things like windows-solitaire etc.
If it's not installed on your system you can try to download it from sf.net, or if you use apt/aptitude/dselect for your downloads/installations just type: apt-get install wine

But for the last year or so, i don't even bother to install x-window-system on the new linux installations i make, so i'm not an expert on the Graphics/GUI under Linux.

If the only reason you want Linux is for security, just do what i do, buy a crappy pc (Like 300Mhz with 32mb RAM is more than enough) and build a minimal Linux installation with iptables and make it a firewall PC. The only thing you need is for that Linux box to have 2 NICs, 1 for your modem and 1 for your LAN. Make this Linux an internet gateway and that's it.
Of course this will not protect you from keyloggers/viruses you might download from the web.

Devile since you're a Linux Freak too, do you have any experience on building Oracle RAC Systems on Linux? (Or maybe gyft access to Meta-link) :P

[Alize]

Originally posted by Dimeslime
Yes, You can run usko in linux. *

I have 2 machines.. One Gentoo Linux the other Ubuntu Linux, both running USKO with the latest wine.

For those new -> Linux is free, open source and a good alternative to windows.
For those who aren't new -> with the proper configuration, you can get ko running quite well...

Bye.

I found Linux for xxx $ ... with FULL extras ... EVErything u need for ur Linux ... i will just tell u how bit it is so u can make conclusion ... 2gbs ... the normal Linux is about 500 mbs or something like that as far as i remmember ...


and Dev about those things u said of making virtual machine .. i have light version of Ubunto so no need of this but it is good advise.

[Alize]

Originally posted by __countess__
I use linux only on servers too...
I did try the different GUI's from time to time but never even thought of replacing windows with linux on my 'gaming'-pc.

One emulator that usually comes with all distributions is wine, only played arround with things like windows-solitaire etc.
If it's not installed on your system you can try to download it from sf.net, or if you use apt/aptitude/dselect for your downloads/installations just type: apt-get install wine

But for the last year or so, i don't even bother to install x-window-system on the new linux installations i make, so i'm not an expert on the Graphics/GUI under Linux.

If the only reason you want Linux is for security, just do what i do, buy a crappy pc (Like 300Mhz with 32mb RAM is more than enough) and build a minimal Linux installation with iptables and make it a firewall PC. The only thing you need is for that Linux box to have 2 NICs, 1 for your modem and 1 for your LAN. Make this Linux an internet gateway and that's it. *
Of course this will not protect you from keyloggers/viruses you might download from the web.

Devile since you're a Linux Freak too, do you have any experience on building Oracle RAC Systems on Linux? (Or maybe gyft access to Meta-link) :P

I was thinking of linux :

1st because it is more secure.
2nd it is lighter than Windows.
3rd because of the 2nd it is working faster.
4th it dun make shitty errors like windows.
and 5th ... what will u say about the privious ?!

[chamb]

Originally posted by Dimeslime
Yes, You can run usko in linux. *

I have 2 machines.. One Gentoo Linux the other Ubuntu Linux, both running USKO with the latest wine.

For those new -> Linux is free, open source and a good alternative to windows.
For those who aren't new -> with the proper configuration, you can get ko running quite well...

Bye.

teach me how to set up wine pls... i sent u a pm on forum

[__countess__]

Originally posted by Alize


I was thinking of linux :

1st because it is more secure.
2nd it is lighter than Windows.
3rd because of the 2nd it is working faster.
4th it dun make shitty errors like windows.
and 5th ... what will u say about the privious ?!

1) If you don't set it up the way it's supposed to be it's less secure than windows.
2,3) Yes it is, server-wise. I'm sure games(designed for windows) run a lot faster on Windows.
4) +1 :-/

5) You have to realise that security for you as a home user can be achieved without the use of Linux. When people talk about security they usually refer to Online Services, e.g. Web Server, FTP Server, Game Server blah blah blah. When you don't provide any services to the general public from your PC you don't need this kind of security, you only need 1 firewall (either windows firewall or just enable the firewall on your DSL router) and you just need to be carefull what programs you run and what you download from the web. Linux CANNOT protect you if you download a virus or whatever, so no use for you i guess.

I bought my laptop like 2 years ago and i still didn't format it or had any problems coz i don't download porn/cracks/warez/etc/etc/etc .

If you wanna play with Linux i would do it on my secondary PC or something, i wouldn't use it as my main desktop pc.

[Devile]

Linux requires more expertise to use it, while Windows is lot more easier and userfriendly. Sure, u can find Linux distributions that are easy to install and userfriendly but u will eventually get to a point where the GUI can't do something u need.

Linux can't be a lot more insecure than Windows if u dont know what u are doing. Try to install an old version of any distribution and u will see what I mean.

About Oracle RAC, yes, I run a cluster of 4 nodes, soon to be 6. It's on 9i right now but we plan to update to 10g. I dont have access to metalink directly, but my DBA's do, what u looking for? manuals? patches? I installed that cluster by myself like 2 years ago without knowing a single thing about Oracle. Pain in the butt cause install failed all over ... now its much more easy to install, got patched. Damn DBA didnt "have time" to do it so I had to for him.

[__countess__]

Originally posted by Devile
Linux is requires more expertise to use it, while Windows is lot more easier and userfriendly. Sure, u can find Linux distributions that are easy to install and userfriendly but u will eventually get to a point where the GUI can't do something u need.

Linux can't be a lot more insecure than Windows if u dont know what u are doing. Try to install an old version of any distribution and u will see what I mean.

About Oracle RAC, yes, I run a cluster of 4 nodes, soon to be 6. It's on 9i right now but we plan to update to 10g. I dont have access to metalink directly, but my DBA's do, what u looking for? manuals? patches? I installed that cluster by myself like 2 years ago without knowing a single thing about Oracle. Pain in the butt cause install failed all over ... now its much more easy to install, got patched. Damn DBA didnt "have time" to do it so I had to for him.

I would love to get my hands on some manuals if it's possible. I don't wanna install it and then 1 month later to find out a 'better way' to do it and re-install it again. + It's not for personal use so i don't have the luxury of experimenting for hours