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Nati is scammer, not me :) (Manes)

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    ###Notice: I've tried to tell Nati/Elad all of the following information before I sent it over here ###

    So, here goes

    Me and Nati merged acocunts on 20th december. The items issued: WP+2/ROL/ROL/SE+1/SE+0/SKE belt/FP+8 set +9 helmet and dual cleaver+9 => Nati and Elad both thought that SE's were crap, but I liked them. (if Im correct) The merge would only continue with the condition that I'd have full control over the password/seal - unseal answer, these conditions were not set up by me, but by my friend and sharer with who I have been playing and sharing from (almost) the beginning of my "KO-career". Later that week I left for Aruba to recover from a car accident, which happened earlier, my whole family was gonna join me on this trip and we have 3 cats at home and we needed someone to take care of them. Wynne is a well known friend of our family and he said he would take care of it. While I was gone, Elad (aka Reinhardt @ manes server) also merged his items with Nati. He (as I heared later) traded his Akara items (which were on my account) for items on Manes. I don't know when this happened. In my absence of 2 weeks and 2 days, Elie-Shai also got a hold of the account and he also played the account, he told me this later. Later, I was allowed to use my computer for just a few hours a day. I was trying to get a hold of Nati to talk to him about the account. I called Wynne and asked him the account-info's so I could check if the account was still fine. "Invalid Password".

    What happened? I'll tell you.

    Just 9 days ago (or something like that) I talked to Elie-shai. He told me he played the account, but, when he told a certain person he was indeed playing the account, Elad got pissed off and told Nati to change the password. This was ofcourse the perfect opportunity to sell the "crappy" SE's and get some new items. And so they did. I don't have exact dates of when this all happened. They blocked Elie-Shai from msn and they also blocked me. I tried to get in touch with Nati, also through ko4life. After 2-3 days I decided to call him on his cellphone. Surprise surprise!!! He answered the phone! He sounded kinda stunned when he heared it was me. I told him to come msn and so he did.
    We talked and talked and he told me he indeed got hacked and he was doing everything he could to get his account back. So, I was like: "w00t". I came back from Aruba and the account was back. Apparently the "hacker" did not know the SA because all my items were still on it, except for the SE's, strange? He was able to change e-mail adress + password but he was not smart enough to ask CS to change SA, or to check CS for payment info's?

    Anyway, as soon as I got back, I logged the char and checked if the SA still worked. It didn't. Nati didn't tell me he changed SA. Ofcourse I asked him to tell me the SA and we'd have start working on getting lvl 80. However, he decided not to and I asked him to give me back my items, and so he did. From that point on, we split our ways. Nati changed his PW and I started to play my dlw char again, Vynd.

    Than, Nati's char got hacked, once again?! Ofcourse Elad and Nati were stunned, and so was I. For as far I know they lost the following items:
    Shell+8 pauldron (=> I traded this party with him when it was +4 reb for eme+30m)
    4 chitin's +8
    IB/IN/ROL's (+0/1/2) EME's

    In the meanwhile, Wynne sometimes seemed to have farmed some items and he got some SE's back, 2 more rols and later on some more items. We performed several upgrades with some nice successes, sold the items and bought FP's+8/SE's/RoL's and some more crap.

    We talked few times. Than, all of a sudden, Nati talked to me on msn saying: "Erik, I can't believe that you did this to me. I trusted you. Etc"
    I was like: "wtf".
    Nati: "I saw you selling +5/15 shell pauldron"
    I told him: "ya duh, I bought it for shit price:S"
    The conversation kept going and going.
    We had a big trio-conversation: Elad, Nati and me. They both accused me of scamming him. According to Nati I was the only one who ever had the account's correct password for the website. (I don't really believe this but who cares). The conversation got a kinda freaky twist when they both started to threaten to kill me, ya, you're reading this correctly, they were threatening to KILL ME. (Kinda gay if you ask me, killing some1 over a gay. ) I was like: "ya, sure mate".

    We didn't speak for 2-3 days. Apparently Wynne in the meanwhile talked to Elad (and/or?) Nati. He told them he was the scammer. He confessed every little detail to Elad/Nati. I don't know who he talked to. One day later, Elad started talking to me: "Lol, you really think we believe that wynne scammed us?! Fuk off dude, we know you use Wynne as cover up name"
    So, again, I was like: "wtf?!"

    Meanwhile I didn't see Nati or Elad online for a few days. At a certain point, they both were online and they again started to threaten me. They both said: "We'll make you pay for what you've done to 'us' " I told them they could check my account. The items were sealed so I didn't have much to hide from them. I gave Nati the PW and he logged my char. He first checked my rogue + his items.

    If I'm correct, he found:
    3 (or 4) x FP+9, and chitin pads(/pauldron)+8, dual cleavers +9, SE+0/SE+2/rol+1/rol+1/SKE belt/WP+2. That should be it.

    He also checked my priest and mage. There was nothing special on it. Than Nati started to talk about the Inn hostess. He found a Chitin goblin pauldron, a few chitins+8 and an MP-absorb sword breaker. I started to explain to both of them the following:

    "I saw the gob pauldron on merchant for 275m. I was stat as 90hp, and I did not have a pauldron at the time. I decided to buy it cuz I didn't have anything else. The chitins +8 are me reserve gear and the gear I used when I didn't have my fp set yet. The MP absorb dagger was on merchant for 200m and I thought it was cheep". Elad told me that: "we have more proof now". I was like: "omg, I show you my account and it still isn't fine with you?! What ever guys." They didn't talk to me anymore from that point. They were offline for many days.

    I was not up-to-date about what Wynne had done the day before. 2 days later I decided to call Wynne and tell him that we needed to talk. There was too much strange shit going on, and his name appeared several times.
    More 2 days later, me and Wynne met at his home and we started talking. After only 5 minuts, Wynne admitted that he indeed scammed Nati.
    He told me how he got to his account:
    "You gave me the correct pw for website, you didn't use it to log on the CS page. The first second you gave me this information, I used it to log the CS page. I saved all the info's. When I was at your house, I cracked your saved/encrypted files and checked for the SA from Nati's account, I used the payment info's and the previous SA to send a ticket to CS. But, I didn't do it at once because I already thought Nati might start to get some new items." (Note: I indeed use encrypted folders for my ko-files and of course other files. They're protected with 'personal information questions&#39
    He sold most of the items and each time he logged on at night, he also sent the Iron necklace to the account, when he stopped playing, he put it back to his noob account and more of these shits. That's how he each time got some new 'farmed money/items' and I didn't even know what was happening.

    I came back home and I started to write a letter for Nati. I did not get a chance to send this letter. Why not? Because Nati and Elad hacked my char, Vynd. I woke up the next day and tried to log and put the char on merchant. The password was invalid. Nati and Elad haven't been online for days now and I know 100% sure it's at least ONE of them.

    So, Nati/Elad, after all this bullshit and threatening, you indeed hacked/scammed the wrong person, just like I was saying for 9238457923457 times. I didn't do anything, just like I told you. I'll ask Wynne to post a message over here and you can ask the admins to IP-trace the whole shit and you'll see that ain't me. I told you I wouldn't do anything to you/your account, same goes for you Elad. I'll try to get back your char. But I don't know in what state it will be.
    You both are pussies for not answering my msn-messages, I wanted to keep this of the record, so your names wouldn't be screwed. You got this one on yourselves. You know I'm right this time.

    If you have the balls, you should give me back my items, now that the whole Knight Online community knows that I'm UNGUILTY. If you have any arguments or questions, I'll be more than happy to answer them.

    We'll talk soon, I guess., Nati.


    PS: I know many of you are now pre-judged about me. I've been called a scammer for no reason. Nati and Elad thought they had the right guy. But they didn't. If they have balls, they'll tell you the same thing over here, and clear my name.


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    sick story omg

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    I trust you 100%.
    Nati and Elad want to fuk you and maybe they want to scam ThiefNemo too :S
    I dont know Nati good but I know that I will never trust Elad aka Reinhard in Manes aka LongStory...

    Hope you will have your items back...

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    I trust you 100%.
    Nati and Elad want to fuk you and maybe they want to scam ThiefNemo too :S
    I dont know Nati good but I know that I will never trust Elad aka Reinhard in Manes aka LongStory...
    Hope you will have your items back...[/b]
    <3, also check Manes section:
    that&#39;s were the argue is atm.

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    I trust you 100%.[/b]

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