that does seem kinda odd lol a quick way to escape into the darkness fairly fast :S well too bad
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that does seem kinda odd lol a quick way to escape into the darkness fairly fast :S well too bad
What's funny about this, is their both calling each other scammer's so you dunno who got scammed - I still say they both should have been banned :P.that does seem kinda odd lol a quick way to escape into the darkness fairly fast :S well too bad[/b]
This clears up the 1 question I had about who's lieing here. Good job putting it all together Snootchie. Nice to see intelligence winning out in a forum topic, especially one as tangled as this one seemed to be.and my account just got set to lvl0?
After cooling down, going to sleep, i got to thinking about this some more... He only read my email from my "[email protected]" msn, which was the account registered on my MyKOL. Unfortunately i used the same password for my Knight Online acocunt as that MSN account.
So after a while i got to thinking why didn't he just go to my Paypal email and start taking money directly from my paypal... Its because it was under different password...
Okay well i learned some things about the KODB from my experience with playing with private servers and hosting... In the data base there are many tables some are for items some are for NPCs others for MOBs and some are for accounts. The ones with account information contain information about your account... your seal/unseal password, your email adress, you character nickname and the account ID that goes with it, and ofc your password...
IMAGE- Click <--- This is the inside of a DB from a v1.299 server so you know some basic knowledge of he is doing this, with your account nickname he can look in this table of the DB and find out your account ID
IMAGE- Click <--- after getting your account ID from other table he uses this table to look at you MyKOL information. Now this only a v1.299 private server DB its nothing as advanced as the current DB k2/Mgame are using so not all of the tables/columns are there. From here he can find out you SQs, your Email, your password, everything
Thats how he got into my email, i was using same password on my KO account as my Email, and thats why he couldnt get into anything else because i used a different password
It shows in the MSN conversation we had that he asked me A LOT of questions (btw there where 2 people other then me in that conversation) On his selling post he stated that he would give the GBs first with no problem at all (why? because he knew he couldn't get scammed... he would just come after you. Anyway he insisted with asking me all these questions... whats your mains nickname? what clan? do you know anyone with +9 items on any server because im buying? so yea i answered it all not knowing what was gonna happen. It also shows in the MSN conversation that he said he "doesn't feel comfortable giving the GBs to a lvl52 with no clan" then i started thinking after he scammed me... why does that matter? he only wanted to insure himself that i wouldn't trade the GBs to another character on another account where he didn't know where it was, with out knowing the characters name he cant find out what account the gbs are on. Which took me back to the part after he gave me 40gbs i said i was gonna re-log to put the last 20gb on different account. Thats when he said " just make a new character on that account" "same account just different character" he repeated it a couple of times...
now before we did this trade he sent me a money request on paypal [600$] and said i need to accept it after i get the GBs on my account. All was going great i was logging into paypal i was at the loading screen where it says "loading" "logging in" and it was taking awhile like always... so i decided to log back on my account to double check that i didn't accept 2mill instead of 2bill. Now thats when i started panicking all i saw when i logged in was that i was lvl0 with unkown class and i couldn't log so i alt-tab to my paypal and declined the trade. logged off and restarted my PC to see if this shit wasn't anything to do with my PC while re-logging i remembered reading a post from grim about his whole clan getting hacked.
IMAGE- Click <-- account left at level 0, Unknown class. This can only be accomplished by editiing the DB in the picture above where it says nation, class, level... and so on if you change your race to something like "3" where 1= human and 2= orc 3= nothing... the DB cant make connection this is what makes the character disappear, for the class they have numbers like 19, 26 as where 19= unmastered rogue and 26 = mastered rogue if they entered a number liek 9999 which doesnt = equal anything you would get unknown class
IMAGE- Click <-- This is what they left on my account after they took my REs+1 and chitin set and their own GBs back, they didnt loose anything for all you people saying that they lost 600$ they took their GBs back they took all my gear and left my account like above (see image)
Im back on my PC after a restart when i get msn from him, he copy pasted something from my email... thats when i said omfg im getting hacked, i panicked because i have my account and my paypal on my email so i rushed to paypal and removed my bank account information, came back to ko4life to post what happen when i saw this shit and the rest is written in my caps lock writting when i was panicking
He has access to the KO data base and is selling GBs on every server for USD $$ i have no doubt about, as for me i will submit a support ticket and try to contact Linus on forums, and if that fails ill have to try to contact an old friend from ares a old gg with GM connections, which if i get through i will get a roll back after they look into the trade logs and possibly find this cunts IP and hopefully K2/Mgame will do some security updates.
I am not a scammer, they did not loose anything they took all their stuff + my stuff i dont give a shit about my ko4life account anymore i am done with this pathetic game, i couldnt care less if you banned me now i just dont want to go out being known a "scammer" which im not.
I know i posted my account info above im going to change the password while i request help from support tickets.
And as for StoneCold and yOOimBack gtfo you worthless cunt , stonecold cant get over the fact i got him muted for 2 days so now he is here not defending them but fighting against me. yOOImBaCk im almost certain he is the other person from the MSN conversation i was in with the original trader "Pyroman"[/b]
Sorry for your KO "interruption", gl with ticket, pullin for ya.
yea iono why everyone saying snootchie should be banned. he just got his entire account hacked by pyro. but i geuss snootchie should still pay him right? retards.
that why u don't fuck with admins / mods =p[/b]
so what they say is right , they know as much as any one else knows about this topic.
i for one will not be contacting snoot for any type of trade, i see him as untrustable. if he got scammed still he knew that pyro knew this ex mod that got banned. seems all well too fishy no proof has been shown. CLOSE THIS topic , before we get a mass ban of accounts , from some of these narrow minded mods.
and whilst your at it BAN snootchie its the right thing too do!
if he did, why would he make the topic saying snootchi scammed him. woudlnt HE NOT want anything to be noticed of it on ko4life?Cause he's been hacked by the guy who sold his gbs[/b]
grow the fuck up shark, you ask for this topic to be closed for arguements many of which you started yourself. no SOLID proof has been provided that snootchie did this, or that he did not. until then he will not be banned. the only ban thats going to come out of you posting in this topic will be your own, i recommend you find somewhere else to post your bullshit.so what they say is right , they know as much as any one else knows about this topic.
i for one will not be contacting snoot for any type of trade, i see him as untrustable. if he got scammed still he knew that pyro knew this ex mod that got banned. seems all well too fishy no proof has been shown. CLOSE THIS topic , before we get a mass ban of accounts , from some of these narrow minded mods.
and whilst your at it BAN snootchie its the right thing too do![/b]
snootchie has done many trades and sales on carnac west, ive seen how he handles his sales and purchases and i found it to be very respectable. i do not believe he did any of the things pyro is accusing him of, yes its very fishy but it doesnt prove anything. nearly everyone on this forum has been blamed for things they did not do, myself included. i believe snootchie until somebody shows real reason not to.
as for you snootchie you've done your part in defending yourself, posting further will only encourage our pre mature forum members to flame and argue further. as your servers mod ill be more then happy to oversee and mediate any trades you take part in, so that people feel more secure until all this garbage is over with.
I lol'ed. Really.
So the guy who lost $600 gets banned but the guy whos account MYSTERIOUSLY GETZ HAX3D -- Right in the middle of the trade has the audacity to say:
I lol'ed. Again. Quick, to the batmobile there on to us! /dissapear.
And I guess I should start making sigs again, apparently thats a nice way to earn money.[/b]
i must say.. i agree with Curly =/ but than again my opinion nor Curly's opinion matter
and i don't know who is telling the truth xD
anyways CurLy = That Gay guy rep'n NYC
He did it before snootchie does so he doesnt look like the scammer oneif he did, why would he make the topic saying snootchi scammed him. woudlnt HE NOT want anything to be noticed of it on ko4life?[/b]
You guys are taking this too personally so your opinions in this topic are worthless.i must say.. i agree with Curly =/ but than again my opinion nor Curly's opinion matter
and i don't know who is telling the truth xD
anyways CurLy = That Gay guy rep'n NYC [/b]
And that's supposed to prove what? :huh:[/b]
?[/b]
i think that prove he have msnAnd that's supposed to prove what? :huh:[/b]
btw dunno if this has smth to do with this
but some guy linked me this topic on msn
his msn was [email protected]
i didnt add him tho nor i know who is he
wondering where did he get my msn
Yea i realized that a couple pages back, Arguing with some of these people is absurd and pointless. If they think one copy pasted MSN conversation is more proof then what i have given so far, then so be it. I believe it was ron white that said " You cant argue with stupid" correct me if im wrong tho ( might be Nancy Greggs o.O ). Their vain and worthless opinion in the end means nothing, its a mods ruling/ decision.grow the fuck up shark, you ask for this topic to be closed for arguements many of which you started yourself. no SOLID proof has been provided that snootchie did this, or that he did not. until then he will not be banned. the only ban thats going to come out of you posting in this topic will be your own, i recommend you find somewhere else to post your bullshit.
snootchie has done many trades and sales on carnac west, ive seen how he handles his sales and purchases and i found it to be very respectable. i do not believe he did any of the things pyro is accusing him of, yes its very fishy but it doesnt prove anything. nearly everyone on this forum has been blamed for things they did not do, myself included. i believe snootchie until somebody shows real reason not to.
as for you snootchie you've done your part in defending yourself, posting further will only encourage our pre mature forum members to flame and argue further. as your servers mod ill be more then happy to oversee and mediate any trades you take part in, so that people feel more secure until all this garbage is over with.[/b]
Also thanks for the support Owa, bknight, cynextime , someon3, DingDong, parasitic, frankie and anyone else i missed.
And as for yOOiMbacK and Frukwan those warns are the admins way of saying that you should leave...
"taking orders" as in "Selling" ... "Selling those items on every server" I added it to the main topic you can find a bit more information about it there if you don't mind reading.And that's supposed to prove what? :huh:[/b]
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