I made a post not long ago, saying that a turk had put $200 into my paypal account to buy an iron necklace.
1 month and 2 days later I recieve an email from paypal, telling me that he has done a charge back on me.
Fantastic, $200 that I cant touch because some filthy turk has decided to pretend he never recieved the iron necklace (oh noes!).-----------------------------------
Details of Disputed Transaction
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Buyer's Name: Hakan Basaran
Buyer's Email: [email protected]
Transaction Date: 24 Apr 2006
Transaction Amount: -$200.00 USD
Well apparently paypal never charge back on intangible items, not enough proof and such like. However this turk charged back directly with his credit card company, who of course back up their client. This turkish credit card company then fought paypal for my $200.
On my previous post everybody told me that there was nothing to worry about, its intangible so I will always win. Not the case when its credit card company vs paypal, in that case it seems to be ME that needs to be showing all the proof. Needless to say BECAUSE its intangible I cant.
So I log into paypal today and notice that the $200 that has been on hold for the last few weeks has now vanished. My first ever time of being scammed. And hes turkish, could it BE any more predictable, scammed by a turk for USD.
Thing is, because paypal defended my position to the credit card company they have placed my account £10 into debt for fighting for me. So wait, they charge me £10 for losing my $200? How the fucking hell does that work?
So I rang paypal asked them how they could justify this? Their responce was that its in the EULA. Fair play to them. However my reply that "Yes however clearly I have no intention of paying this back to you, and so I've cancelled my direct debit with my bank" was met with a little bit of annoyance from the paypal rep. "But you have to pay it" she tells me. "Why would I volunteer my hard earned cash to pay you for losing $200 of my money which I know I shouldnt have lost in the first place?".
Yeah, she didnt have an answer for that one. So now I effectively cant use my paypal account for the moment.
So anyway, ending of the story is this:
I sell 1 thing to a turk, 1 thing in my whole life, this myth about all turks being scammers/dupers/hackers has got to be just that doesnt it? A myth....
1 sale to a turk - 1 chargeback - 1 scam.
So you could argue that 100% of turks have scammed me. (No faulting my maths there :P)
However, given that this guy that scammed me IS turkish, hes also rather stupid. When buying an intangible item (and knowing that you're going to charge me back) you can select not to display your home address.......this guy didnt.
So, being a member of the English gentry, and him being a member of the Turkish scumsucker lifestyle, heres his full name and address.
Prizes can be awarded with that fun things can be done to this scamming turk. Bonus points for the ability for them to be recorded for prosperity.Hakan Basaran
Akatlar mah. *
Zeytinoglu cad. *
Farma sitesi no:8 *
Blok4 Etiler *
Istanbul
Turkey
At the end of it all, I'm $200 down and annoyed with turkish people.
Peace out.
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