The day the internet died !

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UPDATE 4-U.S. FCC commissioners support open Internet rule | Deals | Regulatory News | Reuters

"The rule would prevent operators from discriminating against any legal content a third party wants to deliver to consumers on their networks, though it allows for "reasonable" network management to unclog congestion, clear viruses and spam, and block unlawful content like child pornography or the transfer of pirated content."

Not that I didn't see this coming . I'm just upset that i haven't filled up my last 2 tb drives i just ordered .

and to be clear im concerned about the pirated content .... not the child pornography .

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This is very interesting, it was always assumed regulations like these would come into effect but just how and when it was going to occur was the question...

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McCain Moves to Block FCC Net Neutrality - Business Center - PC World

McCain's bill, the Internet Freedom Act, seeks to do the opposite of what its name implies by ensuring that broadband and wireless providers can discriminate and throttle certain traffic while giving preferential treatment to other traffic. Basically, those in power or those who pay more will have better access. Apparently we have different definitions of ‘freedom'.

According to the text of the McCain bill, the FCC "shall not propose, promulgate, or issue any regulations regarding the Internet or IP-enabled services." Isn't that what the FCC does? Isn't that sort of like introducing a bill to prohibit the Treasury from

this is all happening really fast !

What i think alot of people dont realize is in the back door of the current net neutrality debate is anti piracy laws . The end of downloading and streaming pirated content . While i know throttling and such practices are an even threat . They only bring about competition which is what the free market is about .

I have the option to go with comcast wow charter or at&t . Comcast has the highest speeds but a monthly cap of 250 gigs and throttles all p2p traffic . Wow speeds are on level with comcast just not as secure but no caps no throttles . Take a guess which cable provider i go with .

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oh and rad i honestly didn't think anti piracy laws would be in the Net neutrality bills being proposed .

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This only affects americans, hardly the death of the internet. And laws like these won't stop piracy anyway.

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the law actually specifically includes pirated content . Which legally allows providers to stop any related traffic (something thats is currently illegal in the us). The way its worded actually includes pirated content with virus's and child porn . If u look at the task forces that set out to prevent child porn i would expect the same for pirated content .

I consider it the death of the internet only because i've seen the lot of other countries already voting 3 strikes and shit like that into law .

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It won't stop piracy because it wouldn't be workable. Most ISP's already have rules barring the transfer of copywrited content and most governments have banned internet piracy in one form or another. They can't stop it because they would have to monitor every single packet of information, when much of it is encrypted and host websites / torrent sites are located in countries without such laws. The laws only exist to scare 13 year old girls from sharing britney songs on P2P networks. As for child porn, all the hardcore CP rings use Tor so they will never be caught with these laws. My ISP has a 3 strikes rule, but they aren't watching my traffic. If someone like the RIAA complain about me then I get a strike, otherwise my ISP doesn't give a shit.

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Zero you clearly are not up to date on this issue . Its Saturday im about to leave for uofm college football . I really shouldn't be explaining this to you because i only understand the gist of it .

But really quickly to help you out look up sand vine . Its a program being used by isps right now in the us that actually detects p2p related traffic . It does not eliminate the traffic because that is actually illegal . It only curves the speed . However its drawn the attention of the fcc . Because here in the us we have the right to privacy even on the internet.

This specific legislation pertaining to Net neutrality includes pirated content . Net neutrality until now had absolutely NOTHING to do with pirated content . Net neutrality was only meant to keep the internet fair and open . Because isps have been considering package deals that would limit the amount of websites you view or allow companies to basically pay for faster speeds. So with pirated content in this Net neutrality legislation . It would actually make it legal for isps to not only detect and eliminate p2p traffic it would also make them liable for allowing such practices . Which would lead to the riaa / mpaa / whatever just going after isps rather then individuals . Which is what they do now however some isps have basically relied on our right to privacy . While others have been co-operating which leads to individuals getting dmca notices in the mail

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But really quickly to help you out look up sand vine . Its a program being used by isps right now in the us that actually detects p2p related traffic . It does not eliminate the traffic because that is actually illegal . It only curves the speed . However its drawn the attention of the fcc . Because here in the us we have the right to privacy even on the internet.

Uhm, they just throttle the standart filesharing ports used by torrents and what not. There's really no need for a so called uber high-tech program you're describing it as.

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Uhm, they just throttle the standart filesharing ports used by torrents and what not. There's really no need for a so called uber high-tech program you're describing it as.

orly ? Then why are the ports fine unless utorrents running ?

Detecting p2p traffic and curving its speed is the literal definition of what sandvine does . The "uber high-tech" word curving is used to be less liable n00b specially considering they were advertising unlimited bandwidth