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    No i dont think the CIA were involved, but we know that they knew an attack was imminent and did nothing. In my opinion, the inner circle of the government knew the attack was coming and decided that it would serve as the ideal justification for their future foreign policy. Bush was under pressure by AIPAC for a while to attack the middle east.[/b]
    I thought you didn't mind yourself with USA.

    And no.. the CIA wasn't evolved.

    Fuck that shit.

    Its now few years behind us.

    And that fuck bush is still bragging.. fuck bush

    Let him fight his own war


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    usa is not communist, it wont sacrafice so many lives for some oil.
    also, as far as i know 9/11 didnt have much to do with invading iraq since sadam is not the reason for the 9/11 events, its coz they though sada has weapons of mass destruction.[/b]

    in defense of "communism"....

    communism is a financial distribution system. much like capitalism and socialism.

    america is more socialist than most people would like to admit, thought the word "socialism" is very taboo to use in such events.

    ...

    its been well documented that there were NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION in iraq. zero zilch nada.
    in fact, the official story is *shoulder shrug* "we screwed up"

    no, this is the us government, they did not just "screw up"...this was a highly intelligent and devised attack...the people in power are VERY smart and well organized and have a lot of time to "spin" issues...kind of like you lying to your mommy about stealing five dollars from her wallet when you were 10 years old and blaming it on the dog...

    one question you should be asking yourself is about north korea.

    THEY HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!

    yet, the us (who declared them part of the axis of evil) appeases them and actually is in heavy negotiations for them to stop. north korea, in turn, acts like a bunch of "loonies" and thats how our media portrays them..."oh, their leader is a madman" and they write him off...

    what the public DOESNT realize is that hes making a mockery of the us so called stance on terror...

    consider this thought : north korea has the 4th largest standing army in the world.

    there will be MANY more soldier casualties if we invaded north korea...

    they are also one of the poorest in terms of resources and economic structure and human capital.

    ...

    the us would not occupy and attack north korea...and trust me...north korea is not stupid enough to attack first.
    even if they were to sell arms to iran or whoever, the us just does not have the incentive to occupy north korea.
    the most they would do is disarm them with "strategic" air strikes...

    ....

    in regards to the september 11th attacks...

    i dont want to believe that the us governement was involved...BUT...there are just a lot of loose ends that i dont understand.

    namely, how did world trade center building number 7 collapse? it makes absolutely ZERO sense.
    secondly, why did the FBI immediately survey the area around the pentagon and seize any and ALL surveillance videos and have yet to release them?

    ...

    honestly guys, it makes no sense...and if you start from there, the whole thing becomes muggy.

    ...

    the oils fields iraq sits on, the reserves are estimated to be valued in the TRILLIONS of dollars...consider how big of a number that is and consider if it is worth a few billion dollars to wage war and take control of that fuel in order to satiate your industry thats running out of control...

    ...

    mark cuban, dallas mavericks basketball team owner and billionaire, is actually supporting a movie titled "loose change" which has gained some noteriety here in the US and is planning to distribute the movie to a larger audience. he also publicly asserts that more should be looked into on this...

    now, ive seen the movie and some of the points are a bit outrageous, but it is a movie that needs to be watched with open eyes and a clean slate and the producers do bring up some compelling points that are hard to deny.

    ....


    bottom line is that this war was created to further continue americas appetite for buying more than it should...which is why bush warned us during his 2006 state of the union that we need to find another alternative.

    ...

    bush isnt the enemy, he is a scapegoat. our industry, once the saviour of our country, has transformed into a monster who is unstoppable.

    ...

    consider one final thought:

    if you were to slow down industry, even slightly, thousands of people will lose their jobs and we would fall into a deep recession. the only solution to this is to keep creating and keep the status quo, which is IMPOSSIBLE to maintain.



    sorry for the rant but this topic touches a nerve with me...

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    in defense of "communism"....

    communism is a financial distribution system. much like capitalism and socialism.

    america is more socialist than most people would like to admit, thought the word "socialism" is very taboo to use in such events.

    ...

    its been well documented that there were NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION in iraq. zero zilch nada.
    in fact, the official story is *shoulder shrug* "we screwed up"

    no, this is the us government, they did not just "screw up"...this was a highly intelligent and devised attack...the people in power are VERY smart and well organized and have a lot of time to "spin" issues...kind of like you lying to your mommy about stealing five dollars from her wallet when you were 10 years old and blaming it on the dog...

    one question you should be asking yourself is about north korea.

    THEY HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!

    yet, the us (who declared them part of the axis of evil) appeases them and actually is in heavy negotiations for them to stop. north korea, in turn, acts like a bunch of "loonies" and thats how our media portrays them..."oh, their leader is a madman" and they write him off...

    what the public DOESNT realize is that hes making a mockery of the us so called stance on terror...

    consider this thought : north korea has the 4th largest standing army in the world.

    there will be MANY more soldier casualties if we invaded north korea...
    they are also one of the poorest in terms of resources and economic structure and human capital.


    consider this thought: would you want to risk being shot over a dollar? or would you rather risk getting shot over 10 trillion dollars (made up figure)?

    ...

    the us would not occupy and attack north korea...and trust me...north korea is not stupid enough to attack first.
    even if they were to sell arms to iran or whoever, the us just does not have the incentive to occupy north korea.
    the most they would do is disarm them with "strategic" air strikes...

    ....

    in regards to the september 11th attacks...

    i dont want to believe that the us governement was involved...BUT...there are just a lot of loose ends that i dont understand.

    namely, how did world trade center building number 7 collapse? it makes absolutely ZERO sense.
    secondly, why did the FBI immediately survey the area around the pentagon and seize any and ALL surveillance videos and have yet to release them?

    ...

    honestly guys, it makes no sense...and if you start from there, the whole thing becomes muggy.

    ...

    the oils fields iraq sits on, the reserves are estimated to be valued in the TRILLIONS of dollars...consider how big of a number that is and consider if it is worth a few billion dollars to wage war and take control of that fuel in order to satiate your industry thats running out of control...

    ...

    mark cuban, dallas mavericks basketball team owner and billionaire, is actually supporting a movie titled "loose change" which has gained some noteriety here in the US and is planning to distribute the movie to a larger audience. he also publicly asserts that more should be looked into on this...

    now, ive seen the movie and some of the points are a bit outrageous, but it is a movie that needs to be watched with open eyes and a clean slate and the producers do bring up some compelling points that are hard to deny.

    ....
    bottom line is that this war was created to further continue americas appetite for buying more than it should...which is why bush warned us during his 2006 state of the union that we need to find another alternative.

    ...

    bush isnt the enemy, he is a scapegoat. our industry, once the saviour of our country, has transformed into a monster who is unstoppable.

    ...

    consider one final thought:

    if you were to slow down industry, even slightly, thousands of people will lose their jobs and we would fall into a deep recession. the only solution to this is to keep creating and keep the status quo, which is IMPOSSIBLE to maintain.
    sorry for the rant but this topic touches a nerve with me...[/b]

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