Why is admitting to koxping ban worthy?

[Austin]

And how do you suggest you prove someone is only using it for exping purposes? Oh wait......... you can't... If you want to macro for exping purposes, use Genie.

It's pretty simple actually... Also pretty obvious... Moradon, elmorad, and eslant exp. Cz, rlb, dcz, lunar valley, dark lunar valley, csw, biofrost and anywhere else where the sole purpose is boss drops or pvp or both is koxp pvp.

As have seen before, if someone is seen koxping in any of these zones a simple SS or Fraps can be taken to provoke punishment. It's usually fairly easy to determine koxp from genie even in a SS.

[razor]

It's pretty simple actually... Also pretty obvious... Moradon, elmorad, and eslant exp. Cz, rlb, dcz, lunar valley, dark lunar valley, csw, biofrost and anywhere else where the sole purpose is boss drops or pvp or both is koxp pvp.

As have seen before, if someone is seen koxping in any of these zones a simple SS or Fraps can be taken to provoke punishment. It's usually fairly easy to determine koxp from genie even in a SS.

Well, I'm glad that now we got a volunteer to monitor every single server in both USKO and EUKO to determine if other K4L members are using cheats for anything other than exp!

Good luck out there, Austin.

[MrRapist]

For example, ifilth was banned based off a fraps that was provided showing him koxping in eslant. The other two bans given were funkz for supposedly being a clan leader of the person/persons koxping (which he isn't) and wasn't even in said fraps...

Wrong, ifilth was banned becase he promoted the usage of third party tools, he even posted prices so I had to edit his post. And funkz was banned because of this: Funkz banned
Just wanted to point that out..

I personally have no tolerance for cheaters as that's what destoryed the game the most, from my pov anyway.. Let's be honest here, nobody will stop using the bot features of "koxp"-tools for xping. Those tools offer a lot more such as speedhacks,wallhacks, insta casts,auto loot etc.

If it's worth a perm ban? I don't know but a temp ban and infractions are useless. So either allow it and risk g4l becoming a forum about cheating or show zero tolerance.

[Austin]

Well, I'm glad that now we got a volunteer to monitor every single server in both USKO and EUKO to determine if other K4L members are using cheats for anything other than exp!

Good luck out there, Austin.

It's not going to change a thing, all it will do is keep forum members from getting perm banned for getting caught koxping exp.
No one would be aloud to talk about koxping on forums and no one would be able to promote it and people will send fraps of others cheating in pvp or killing bosses just like it always has been.

Wrong, ifilth was banned becase he promoted the usage of third party tools, he even posted prices so I had to edit his post. And funkz was banned because of this: Funkz banned
Just wanted to point that out..

I personally have no tolerance for cheaters as that's what destoryed the game the most, from my pov anyway.. Let's be honest here, nobody will stop using the bot features of "koxp"-tools for xping. Those tools offer a lot more such as speedhacks,wallhacks, insta casts,auto loot etc.

If it's worth a perm ban? I don't know but a temp ban and infractions are useless. So either allow it and risk g4l becoming a forum about cheating or show zero tolerance.

Well the ifilth one obviously wasn't broadcast since as you said you deleted the post however I agree with what you did on that specific one, it clearly broke ko4life rules.

Yes but the people who use this forum and do use koxp use it to exp and are very rarely using it to koxp pvp since people on this specific forum play for the sole purpose of pvp and have no reason to use obvious cheats like koxp. If they do (which they will even if it's ban worthy on ko4life) then others will do what they always have and report it with fraps.

As for funkz, I have mixed feelings about that because of the fact that he was already banned for apparently being the clan leader of a koxp clan however you're right he didn't help his case. None the less he was already banned before he posted all of that.

And! You didn't explain beastinbed... How did he get banned? By throwing out a sarcastic comment due to all of the flaming the clan he is currently is was getting? Even the sarcastic comment didn't have evidence in it, if anything he said the whole clan was a koxp clan however as I already said... Sarcasm.

[MrRapist]

I didn't explain because I don't know? Maybe he shouldn't have posted such a stupid comment when people were getting banned for koxping...
About funkz, he was banned exactly for what I mentioned. Find that topic and you'll see, sancte explained it. The fact he logged jaspreets account (without his permission) and the shittalk just added to it.

They use it very rarely for pvp? Please show some accurate statistics. It's all assumptions. fact is third party tools and the usage of those aren't supported by g4l.

[Austin]

I didn't explain because I don't know? Maybe he shouldn't have posted such a stupid comment when people were getting banned for koxping...
About funkz, he was banned exactly for what I mentioned. Find that topic and you'll see, sancte explained it. The fact he logged jaspreets account (without his permission) and the shittalk just added to it.

They use it very rarely for pvp? Please show some accurate statistics. It's all assumptions. fact is third party tools and the usage of those aren't supported by g4l.

There was a lot of things being said through out that whole incident, one sarcastic remark shouldn't have had that much of a effect however like you said (which I was unaware of) you didn't ban beastinbed there for can't answer that. He was already banned before he pumped on jaspreet's account.

I'm basing this off of all the people I know and have ever known who have used a koxp for exp. No one is arguing if g4l supports it or not, the topic is pretty clear.
Why is admitting to koxping ban worthy?

Just because you don't perm ban for it doesn't mean you have to support it.
Especially when other rules are broken that are physically written on the forum as "rules" and they only receive an infraction.

[MrRapist]

I don't need more than one reason to ban known koxpers.
A koxped character is always at risk of getting banned, even months later if there's evidence.. We do usd trades on this forum and both can't go hand in hand.

Wrong, if you don't ban for it, you are infact supporting it. The only thing you can compare this to is scamming. You scam once, you get banned. You koxp once, you get banned. But hey we could give out infractions to scammers too..
Shit you do once that has no impact for longer than minutes is what you get infractions for.

[thing]

I don't need more than one reason to ban known koxpers.
A koxped character is always at risk of getting banned, even months later if there's evidence.. We do usd trades on this forum and both can't go hand in hand.

Wrong, if you don't ban for it, you are infact supporting it. The only thing you can compare this to is scamming. You scam once, you get banned. You koxp once, you get banned. But hey we could give out infractions to scammers too..
Shit you do once that has no impact for longer than minutes is what you get infractions for.

Ban for spam, ban for thread hijacking, ban for EVERYTHING then - if this is your logic.
Oh, it's too harsh? Exactly.

[MrRapist]

IT = koxping, not IT = everything
Don't twist my words. I clearly said "Shit you do once that has no impact for longer than minutes is what you get infractions for.", that includes spam and thread highjacking.

I don't know whether your are trying not to get my point or if you are just ignoring it.. If you do not ban koxpers, then you give them the chance to sell their koxped characters ( that are at risk of getting banned at any time ). So you aren't supporting them directly but it's like you don't care. Maks infractions and temp bans in this case literally useless.

[thing]

IT = koxping, not IT = everything
Don't twist my words. I clearly said "Shit you do once that has no impact for longer than minutes is what you get infractions for.", that includes spam and thread highjacking.

I don't know whether your are trying not to get my point or if you are just ignoring it.. If you do not ban koxpers, then you give them the chance to sell their koxped characters ( that are at risk of getting banned at any time ). So you aren't supporting them directly but it's like you don't care. Maks infractions and temp bans in this case literally useless.

Do you know how EASY it is to hide the fact that a char is koxped?
People will sell accounts here koxped or not, no one would ever know. I'd rather buy an account cheaper from someone who admitted it was koxped than from someone who's lying that it wasn't.

Also, how many koxped accounts that have been traded here have been banned? I'd love to know

[Josh]

Wrong, ifilth was banned becase he promoted the usage of third party tools, he even posted prices so I had to edit his post. And funkz was banned because of this: Funkz banned
Just wanted to point that out..

I personally have no tolerance for cheaters as that's what destoryed the game the most, from my pov anyway.. Let's be honest here, nobody will stop using the bot features of "koxp"-tools for xping. Those tools offer a lot more such as speedhacks,wallhacks, insta casts,auto loot etc.

If it's worth a perm ban? I don't know but a temp ban and infractions are useless. So either allow it and risk g4l becoming a forum about cheating or show zero tolerance.

I'm sorry but what does Funkz say that makes him deserve a ban?

"How come ur not making these videos of other clans who are koxping??"

Sure, as Cama said, that could be construed to some form of admittance on his part, but the only thing he would be admitting is that Animosity clan are koxping. Nothing about him personally using it or having used it. He is not the clan leader and he wasn't even in that party.

[Austin]

I'm sorry but what does Funkz say that makes him deserve a ban?

"How come ur not making these videos of other clans who are koxping??"

Sure, as Cama said, that could be construed to some form of admittance on his part, but the only thing he would be admitting is that Animosity clan are koxping. Nothing about him personally using it or having used it. He is not the clan leader and he wasn't even in that party.

according to him he wasn't banned for anything related to koxp, He was banned for logging another members account. Which is not true considering he was already banned when he logged the account.

[Lavie]

Do you know how EASY it is to hide the fact that a char is koxped?
People will sell accounts here koxped or not, no one would ever know. I'd rather buy an account cheaper from someone who admitted it was koxped than from someone who's lying that it wasn't.

Also, how many koxped accounts that have been traded here have been banned? I'd love to know

$100+ for an 80+ account on this forum (average). Chinese gold farmers flip 80+ chars for around $50-60. No brainer.

[thing]

$100+ for an 80+ account on this forum (average). Chinese gold farmers flip 80+ chars for around $50-60. No brainer.

What's your point...?

[MrRapist]

according to him he wasn't banned for anything related to koxp, He was banned for logging another members account. Which is not true considering he was already banned when he logged the account.

And funkz was banned because of this: Funkz banned

???

But like you said the topic is pretty clear. Why is admitting to koxping ban worthy?


@thing according to your logic we shouldn't even try to prevent it just because we can't stop it? Wow.