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[nickos3]

Hard to say. They lost a lot of players after launch because I'm guessing some teams didn't like the leveling, but they still do have plenty of players. I don't know how that transcends into PvP though.

I don't think it's necessarily "dead". I just don't think it's worth starting before you can actually check CZ during peak time.

That's a really bad way of thinking. I mean, I've seen you and your clan supporting this server a lot (also asking for a wipe many times) but when they launched the server 1st and now for 2nd time, you're waiting to see how's it going regarding population...

If you like someones work and you want to support his server, the only way to do this is by logging in and playing. You don't need to PK. You can just farm some items and then merchant them. If everyone was thinking the same way as you (not specifically you, but, most from english community) do then nobody could have a server running for too long.
So, some of you shouldn't wonder why there are owners re-opening their servers every 1 or 2 months. If nobody is farming or merchanting or pking or lvling then it's clear that the server will die due to low population.

It does really suck asking for a new server and then backstabing the owner(s) by not playing the game.

That's why most of them care about their turkish population more than the rest ones. At least, they enjoy playing the game and they don't play just to PK or just when there are 100+ people in CZ.

I should post this in another topic, but, I'm just quoting your post. I'm not responsible of any future* spam/hate posts that may come.

[Kallop]

That's a really bad way of thinking. I mean, I've seen you and your clan supporting this server a lot (also asking for a wipe many times) but when they launched the server 1st and now for 2nd time, you're waiting to see how's it going regarding population...

If you like someones work and you want to support his server, the only way to do this is by logging in and playing. You don't need to PK. You can just farm some items and then merchant them. If everyone was thinking the same way as you (not specifically you, but, most from english community) do then nobody could have a server running for too long.
So, some of you shouldn't wonder why there are owners re-opening their servers every 1 or 2 months. If nobody is farming or merchanting or pking or lvling then it's clear that the server will die due to low population.

It does really suck asking for a new server and then backstabing the owner(s) by not playing the game.

That's why most of them care about their turkish population more than the rest ones. At least, they enjoy playing the game and they don't play just to PK or just when there are 100+ people in CZ.

I should post this in another topic, but, I'm just quoting your post. I'm not responsible of any further spam/hate posts that may come.

I also care more about Turkish population than the English population. That's exactly the reason I'm questioning the server PvP activity. The thing is, if I decide to play a server and possibly make a clan and recruit people, I don't want to end up wasting my own time and possibly everyone else's time. There are better alternatives almost always.

That being said, I really think ApexKO DESERVES to succeed. I spent countless hours in the alpha one year ago, finding out bugs (sometimes game breaking ones...) and the amount of effort they have put towards this server is enormous. But, from just a consumer/player viewpoint.. It's not worth it unless CZ is active. If I log in during peak time and there aren't like 30-40 people on each side, it's probably not enjoyable.

[Cortex]

There is one simple answer to this.. If you advertise your server as, ''Biggest server'' 1.000 players... And than you get 350 players, they will say it's bad and no players.
But if you advertise server as normal server, not being too egoistic you can get 200 players and they will say 'very nice and populated' server.

Example,

Look at knightonline-zone, they have 100 players and people saying 'Nice server, well populated'
Look at ApexKO, they have 350 players and people saying 'need more players'

Do you get it?

Another thing is..

If you start a server with 1000 players, and on the second day you drop to 500... They will say ''dead server''
But if you start server with 200 players and in second day drop to 175, they will say ''good server''.

It's simple as that...



@Kallop.. I remember you was active on servers such as Kronos,Forgotten when they had like 150 players.. You been playing hardcore, now at ApexKO 350 users you are saying not enough?

It's all due to the perspective of advertisting the server.

Different thing is OSKO, people there asking when is next server, 2 hours after they launch official

[Kallop]

There is one simple answer to this.. If you advertise your server as, ''Biggest server'' 1.000 players... And than you get 350 players, they will say it's bad and no players.
But if you advertise server as normal server, not being too egoistic you can get 200 players and they will say 'very nice and populated' server.

Example,

Look at knightonline-zone, they have 100 players and people saying 'Nice server, well populated'
Look at ApexKO, they have 350 players and people saying 'need more players'

Do you get it?

Another thing is..

If you start a server with 1000 players, and on the second day you drop to 500... They will say ''dead server''
But if you start server with 200 players and in second day drop to 175, they will say ''good server''.

It's simple as that...



@Kallop.. I remember you was active on servers such as Kronos,Forgotten when they had like 150 players.. You been playing hardcore, now at ApexKO 350 users you are saying not enough?

It's all due to the perspective of advertisting the server.

Different thing is OSKO, people there asking when is next server, 2 hours after they launch official

I think I played ForgottenKO for like 2 days because it was absolutely, ridiculously, shitty. In fact, I have no recollection of me playing there except the fact that class balance was completely broken and the server was super dead. I played Reign Of Kronos for like 2 months due to it being active in CZ during peak time. The online user count is completely pointless in my opinion, what counts more is the CZ activity. A PvP server with 100 players in CZ is active. A farm server with 100 players is not.

In short, if in like a couple weeks I find out that ApexKO CZ activity is somewhat decent, I'll probably start calling people to play. If I log in during peak time and find out there is nobody in CZ, I'll probably find more productive things to do. I don't have to play KO you know.

[Cortex]

I think I played ForgottenKO for like 2 days because it was absolutely, ridiculously, shitty. In fact, I have no recollection of me playing there except the fact that class balance was completely broken and the server was super dead. I played Reign Of Kronos for like 2 months due to it being active in CZ during peak time. The online user count is completely pointless in my opinion, what counts more is the CZ activity. A PvP server with 100 players in CZ is active. A farm server with 100 players is not.

In short, if in like a couple weeks I find out that ApexKO CZ activity is somewhat decent, I'll probably start calling people to play. If I log in during peak time and find out there is nobody in CZ, I'll probably find more productive things to do. I don't have to play KO you know.

Ok if you say so... iKingKallop nazi symbol.. aiight.

On topic:
ApexKO is lacking of a strategic appearence marketing, the server is the most updated but the marketing is far outdated.. I'm not sure if Twostars left the KO community or what? But however i'm sure the ApexKO is very good server, it just needs better marketing appearence.

[Jamm1n]

If you like someones work and you want to support his server, the only way to do this is by logging in and playing. You don't need to PK. You can just farm some items and then merchant them. If everyone was thinking the same way as you (not specifically you, but, most from english community) do then nobody could have a server running for too long.
So, some of you shouldn't wonder why there are owners re-opening their servers every 1 or 2 months. If nobody is farming or merchanting or pking or lvling then it's clear that the server will die due to low population.

God damn. Fucking congratulations man. Smartest thing I have ever seen you say. Sadly there are better games if you enjoy farming and grinding. Turks love this game because they are the game, its like home turf for them. Pretty much everyone else is in it for the PK.

[eupheuz]

the population so far is great. the thing is whether it'll eventually drop or not. I played from 2 am ( gmt-5, NA east timezone ) to like 10 am and there was over 40 and sometimes 50 emc. There was about 20-30 orcs most of the time. At its peak time, there's like 60+ on each side. It is populated, it just depends on players now. EXP and farm is quite easy.

[SPANKME]

I am pretty sure there are no-one leaving the server because of leveling. Really easy and simple, quests all the way from lvl 35 to 75+, then grinding some hours on ronark/eslant and continue with quests.
I didn't get exp premium on the start and im almost 81 on day 2.

[eupheuz]

I am pretty sure there are no-one leaving the server because of leveling. Really easy and simple, quests all the way from lvl 35 to 75+, then grinding some hours on ronark/eslant and continue with quests.
I didn't get exp premium on the start and im almost 81 on day 2.

indeed, exped with you. At lvl 70 i was doing like 1 lvl every 15mins~

[Kallop]

I am pretty sure there are no-one leaving the server because of leveling. Really easy and simple, quests all the way from lvl 35 to 75+, then grinding some hours on ronark/eslant and continue with quests.
I didn't get exp premium on the start and im almost 81 on day 2.

Well I saw people join the server and after level 60 I never saw them again. The reason why I was able to see them leave was because they were mage teams with name tags.

[SirKaoS]

Example,

Look at knightonline-zone, they have 100 players and people saying 'Nice server, well populated'
Look at ApexKO, they have 350 players and people saying 'need more players'

Well there are other factors. Zone MYKO players are mostly from SEA MY knight online, which having last 4 months online population bellow 40, so 100 is a upgrade for them ;-)

[Cortex]

Well, anyway, no matter.

ApexKO 1
OSKO 0

Regards.

[razor]

I'm assuming that's Damien and some others? If I'm not wrong, they're pretty good. They used to use "Sality" tags in other servers, usually under the clan name 4Difference.

Yea that's them.

[Zamerith]

Do i really need to collect 20 of each dim essence to get my lvl60 warrior master skill? -_- Also who do i exchange them with to create the actual essence i need?

[eupheuz]

Do i really need to collect 20 of each dim essence to get my lvl60 warrior master skill? -_- Also who do i exchange them with to create the actual essence i need?

no, you have a chance to drop the potion ( item ) when killing the bosses. it may drop the whole potion or a piece (1/20)