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how many rouges use dual comparied to single?

This is a discussion on how many rouges use dual comparied to single? within the KO4life Private Server Area forums, part of the Private Servers category; it doesnt fucking matter how you minor because if you use more mana than you soulpot, you will go oom. ...
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    it doesnt fucking matter how you minor because if you use more mana than you soulpot, you will go oom. 5 years and the tards here still haven't realised that. The reason people use dual isn't because it's better than single, it's because they can't do single. If you can do a good single minor (8-9 per second) then dual is pointless, it just wastes a bar spot. HP pots are very useful if you have to cure or cast magic shield a lot, and also HP pots are better burst healing than dual minor, in those cases where you will die fast otherwise.

    The only scenario where dual minor is an advantage is 1v1 with warriors (at least at lvl 70) because the fight is so short and the incoming damage so constant and sustained that you should aim to be oom in around 20-30 seconds and often single minor doesnt drain ur mana fast enough. Otherwise single minor is superior in every regard. Rogue 1v1s are long so you need to control ur mana, BP 1v1's are bursty and u have to cure a lot, so HP+minor is best, mage 1v1s are also quite long if they slide so u must control your mana.

    Also a lot of people just assume single minor is bad, because they've never fought someone good at it. Cardinal was the only rogue i ever fought who could do it the same way (i actually learned a lot from him) and frankly I don't think any rogues have surpassed that standard since. And if you want to learn single, don't watch videos because its hard to do it while recording. You just have to take my word for it that it works.
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    00000 a quick question.. are you playing on the beta?
    because i would really like to vs you

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0000000 View Post
    frankly I don't think any rogues have surpassed that standard since.
    And what would that standard be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteDarknezzz View Post
    00000 a quick question.. are you playing on the beta?
    because i would really like to vs you
    I was for about 3 days, but i doubt i will play when it goes live.

    Quote Originally Posted by MeeP View Post
    And what would that standard be?
    The standard in healing cardinal set on ares a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0000000 View Post
    The standard in healing cardinal set on ares a few years ago.
    Which is what? What are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plopz View Post
    @ko4mylife... if you are good enough and have practice enough, you can easily go even faster than this... I knew a guy that could burn all his mana with a single minor in 4-6 souls... and i mean in WirezKO.... full +3/+10 lvl 80.. so it's like 6-7k mana with single minor in 6 seconds... you gotta be awesome to acomplish that... i'll try finding the video... rogues that have over 3-4 years using dual/single minor, obviusly they will be fast as hell and they will can vs alot before getting tired...

    I personally use 1 minor all the time and only after 10mins of non stop minoring i get tired... 2 mins of rest and im fine again xD... you only gotta have practice as rogue

    yeah i agree wit u on the last part u need a shit load of practice as sin 2 master it not somethign u can just pick up n hope 2 be good at in a few days, im still tryin 2 get single mh combo back but get tried way 2 fast.....n hav alot of trouble droppin dual mh rouges atm but soon enough it will turn around, n like the person above said its not bout how fast u spam its how constant u can keep ur mh in a single soul pot

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    in my opinion single minor could work better on this beta but if ur playing a lvl 80 rogue then dual rapes single any day, even on this beta idont think anyone using single minor could beat some of the guys using dual minor and that i can guarentee.

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    I use dual simply because it's easier to use 2 fingers spamming minor on a decent speed instead of spamming 1. I'm sure 1 would work fine if you trained, but I'm to lazy for that and don't really see it being any better. Though the fact that I use double minor doesn't mean I don't hp pot when I cure or need bursthealing. Still have hp pot on bar, so can't really see any difference between my setup and a single minor setup, other than that he has room for another skill on the bar I guess.

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    I use single minor , with the mana that beta rogues have single minor is enought. Also i play single minor since 0000000 taught us how to do it , the bad thing is that after each vs i got tired thats why i dont vs a lot xD.
    But few rgoues killed me in beta ( and im sure that all of them were 65 , im 64, so no absolutenes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0000000 View Post
    The standard in healing cardinal set on ares a few years ago.
    Your ego precedes you reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kibal View Post
    I use single minor , with the mana that beta rogues have single minor is enought. Also i play single minor since 0000000 taught us how to do it , the bad thing is that after each vs i got tired thats why i dont vs a lot xD.
    But few rgoues killed me in beta ( and im sure that all of them were 65 , im 64, so no absolutenes).
    im 63.. lost alot stats compared to lv65.. and i still win 2 out of 3 vs's

    imo, it all depends on your mana, what build you are, what pk style you have and wich minor you prefer ( minor with mouse or hand on keyboard ).

    i prefer:
    high mana pool, cuz i only run with souls ( 0 hp pots ).
    HP build, cuz im more of support rogue and i can sometimes run in partys with ms and still survive.
    i use single minor when Exping and mouse in pk ( its faster to select alley and minor him ).
    i also use mouse in vs, but single.. its prettymuch same, i got so used to mouse becuz i hate swapping my hand from keyboard to mouse and otherway around.
    and i use cntrl minor when i have low hp and must escape out of big fights to get full hp and /town.
    i tried dual minor and i really dislike it..

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    Still Kibal you are good gun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkongfury View Post
    Your ego precedes you reputation.
    cardinal is who tought 0000000 how to minor.. hes not talking about himself.

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    In a KO/KE server 1 minor or hp+minor is my preferred method. I find a single minor easier to do as you have less skills to do a rotation which means I like to keep it on 2 bars.

    In ROFD onwards I was using hp+minor, Also with the extra attack skills I was doing a rotation which was spread over 4 skill bars.

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    Look the PK vid at my sig and you will know which one I use...


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