I understand english may not be your first language so you might not be able to comprehend what I am saying so I'll say it again.1st of all -65def = =7 fulitol
thats why i said 20dmg
didnt have +8 in my hand so i cant say a shit.....
so when you use normal staff you never getting a ac valks and ac pathos?
thats a bull shit man..
-65 ac is -65ac thats all[/b]
+7 fulitol does not only give 20 more damage compared to an elixir or scorching.
tbh many mages use HP valks and not all have pathos gloves, what I'm saying is that the AC valks and pathos gloves basically cover any AC loss from the staff, I would trade a staff with 131 AP (141 at +8) compared to one with 120 AP (elixir) or 121 (hell blood +7) for the lack of defence.