Which dagger is better ? Shard +8 or Cleaver +9 ?

[nickos3]

As the topics title says

[Steez]

Some people claim that non high class items fail more often than high class (i.e. spike hits 100), and some people claim they have tested it and saw no difference.

Personally I've never noticed a difference, but I've never actually done extensive testing. I would just go for whichever has higher AP, or test it for yourself

[raam]

I also have not seen any difference between shard +8 and cleaver +9 in terms of "failing". If the cleaver is an option, I usually go for that (higher AP and elem damage)

[Kallop]

I think if you have both Cleaver +9 and Shard +8, you end up having the same AP as with dual Cleaver +9. At least it used to be that way. Also, there's the aforementioned urban legend about Cleaver +9 failing more than Shard +8, but there's no actual evidence which would prove it. It also sounds just as stupid as the Turkish urban legend about looting coins affecting your drop rate.

It goes pretty much like this:

Do you have any plans of upgrading your weapon in the future? If yes, go for shard. You can always reverse the shard and try get more out of it.
Which one is cheaper? The cheaper option is most likely better unless you're not trying to make money by reselling your items.

[BaanNekTharious]

cleaver fails too much,shard all the way baby .

[Rhymes]

Obviously shard for the looks.

[ScreameR]

shard all the way, shard has 101 AP and 80 poision, cleaver has 102 with 90. but for the looks i'd take shard anyday, fuck cleaver, if itwas between MD9 and shard 8 i'd say md9

[razor]

shard all the way, shard has 101 AP and 80 poision, cleaver has 102 with 90. but for the looks i'd take shard anyday, fuck cleaver, if itwas between MD9 and shard 8 i'd say md9

I don't think anybody would pick shard8 over md9 lol.

[Kallop]

shard all the way, shard has 101 AP and 80 poision, cleaver has 102 with 90.

Just gonna point out, that in theory all these words were pointless.

for the looks i'd take shard anyday, fuck cleaver,

The post can be summarized as such. Also, I have no fucking idea why I even pointed that out. I'm really bored.

[ScreameR]

Just gonna point out, that in theory all these words were pointless.



The post can be summarized as such. Also, I have no fucking idea why I even pointed that out. I'm really bored.

i know it doesn't make any sense, but sorry i won't pk with a cleaver. and if you read on a bit you'll see i'd take md9 over a shard 8.

@razor i said md9>shard8 not shard8>md9

[razor]

i know it doesn't make any sense, but sorry i won't pk with a cleaver. and if you read on a bit you'll see i'd take md9 over a shard 8.

@razor i said md9>shard8 not shard8>md9

I know, but there's not even a choice there. One has 101 the other 109, obviously anyone would pick the md. It's like saying if it was between Audi R8 and Toyota Supra, I would pick Audi R8

[WnxDemonKing666]

Also, u have to think about resell value. A cleaver+9 is very hard to sell compare to a +8shard.

[ScreameR]

I know, but there's not even a choice there. One has 101 the other 109, obviously anyone would pick the md. It's like saying if it was between Audi R8 and Toyota Supra, I would pick Audi R8

just saying, for those that don't get why md>cleaver.

[NuclearWinter]

just saying, for those that don't get why md>cleaver.

so for no one then? I'm pretty sure everyone understands that 109 is higher than 102

it'd make more sense to compare what +rev shard has 109 ap. something "like" shard +7 rev vs md9

[sczuross]

cleaver is good but that items is low and damage in this a large span but in shard damage is permanent that items in high class items damage is permanentdamage is permanentdamage is permanent