This is a discussion on courthouse/banroom within the Feedback forums, part of the General category; Originally Posted by Josh
There we go then, permanent bans because a mod overreacts ( unbeatable, coolboy ), wrongful scam ...
there has been alot of peop banned though for flamming hijacking threads and other things if you read some of the banned users
Let's not go offtopic.
I doubt it would be that hard to set-up, and whilst it may not be used a lot, it's a useful thing to have in a forum. I guess it would be more use in a more active forum that bans for time periods straight, and not auto bans from infractions or straight permanent. Debating infractions given would be a bit too much of a time waster and moderators seem to have a mind set in stone over permanent bans.
Flawless victory! No matter what's said you can just pawn it off as evidence of your original point. Credit where credits due.
There is no personal agenda here. It may seem like that because how whole-heartedly I argued in the past over similar issues, but that's because this forum is boring and a good discussion brightens things up. I thought this section was to suggest improvements for the forum? Why is it being met with so much hostility.. Another forum I visit has this and with the recent talk about bannings it came to my mind to suggest it here, that's all. Whilst I have argued about peoples bans in the short past, it wasn't personal affections motivating that, more the obvious wrongful banning which I would argue the case for anyone in that position, because - and this is only going to solidify your original point here - I felt I was right and still do.
Again, this suggestion was from seeing that drama and thinking this could help to prevent that happening again, not seeing it, not getting my way and thinking of another platform to argue on. If all suggestions are met with such hostility I can see why the only update to the forum in years is a couple of prefixes.
P.S: I've never criticized moderators specifically, just critisized the attitudes of moderators as a whole ( with no fault of their own, as it seemed to be a rule ).
P.SS: The forum would be lucky to have hundreds of active members, so can't see hundreds of moderator complaints coming in. There was large complaints over the new moderators a while back, but that died down as people started to care less.
Actually I said your idea wasn't bad. I said it could be useful. My gripe with it is people like you, who if banned wouldn't form a mature discussion but rather a show of attitude and anger and wouldn't accept anything other than to be unbanned. I think in principle the idea is good, but these are the problems I would foresee 1) It would end up eventually becoming a flame fest and a hate section on moderators. Whether someone deserved a ban or not they will post there because it is an opportunity to vent anger. 2) It would actually be inactive. Not many people are banned permanently believe it or not and those who get infractions through experience PM the moderator to discuss. 3) I personally feel this section is sufficient. If a ban is made people on here tend to find out and post about it (take funkz and coolboy for example) if it warrants a discussion. You have to remember 99% of people who permanently banned on here are scammers, who only get banned once there is enough evidence. And this is my issue. For 99% of cases and bans its useless. For a couple of cases it would be useful. Whether those rare cases make the section warranted is up to admins.
Let's face it. The community is dying and unless something is changed, it will cease to exist. If we change the rules so that only scammers or out of control flamers/spammers are permanently banned, we can have this courtroom. It would be cut and dry; if you scammed go away, if you were banned for some other reason, we'll hear you out.