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IN vs WP+2 revisited (DCZ sin)

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    Default IN vs WP+2 revisited (DCZ sin)

    Well I made this topic like 4 months ago, when my gear was worse and decided to get WP+2, now I have way better gear like IB, rols etc

    So I summed up the differences:

    BTW - This is on C-West.

    WP+2 gives me:

    - 38 AP
    - 87 hp
    - 134 mp (doesn't matter I already have more than 2k mp so it's ok)
    - 28 AC
    - 35 FR / 15 LR / 15 GR (With IN I will have 46 FR / 46 LR / 93 LR, and with WP+2 81/61/108)
    - 5 STR (who cares?)

    IN gives me:

    - 10 Defence to all weapons.

    So post your opinions here, and also please say if you have actually used both of them. Also no comments like "IN", or "WP+2", please also give a reason.

    P.S. This is not a spam topic for you to get 50 posts, so no spam posts please.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by MushtMan; 07-04-2010 at 06:19 AM.

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    Well from what i experienced in cw DCZ there are not many mages where u will need such ressists. So the difference is something like 40ap and 28 deffences, when u said u dont need more mana. I would say that 40 ap does not make so big dmg differences, i guess u will havething like 1300 ap, so if u will spike with IN for like 800, it will go for 815-820 with WP, does not seem so much for me. So i would pick IN over WP in current DCZ, cuz if u like SOLO and u wanna go 2,3,4 vs you, then it will help u so much.

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    I like some extra ap of the WP+2 however.. the hp/mp dont really matter since they wont make any difference with or without a 87 hp bonus.. i u get hit with 2k skills that 87 hp aint gonna save your live..and yes i've tried it

    >>>>>It all depends on who you'r fighting and what kind of build you have on your char..
    full ap archer of a bit of a tanky archer..<<<<<

    Why dont you compare an IN+2 to a WP+2 ? ( yeh i know IN+2 is alot of$$ :P)

    Personally i would keep them both
    and switch depending on situation..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch1990 View Post
    ont you compare an IN+2 to a WP+2 ? ( yeh i know IN+2 is alot of$$ :P) because I don't baba trying to be more realistic for the time being

    Personally i would keep them both and when would you use which?
    and switch depending on situation..
    and ya my ap would be like 1.3k with IN so i also don't think that extra bit of ap would be THAT much of a difference.

    I'm starting to lean more to IN, but feel free to give more opinions

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    hmm i would go with wp+2 cause i think IB and DD is just enough in DCZ but if you decide to keep the IN then you should get a PP+1 or something so if you need ap, you'll have it. when i had average gear in ardream, i had like 1470 ap and, 3200-3300 hp and about 1050 def with rols, eb+1, wp+2, dual re+1 and it was just good, i was not a monster, but i could kill some asses in 3-4v1, ofc with DD. And at 59 IN doesn't give you that much hp/mp as it would at 80+.

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    So from what i calculated on a lvl 59 sin


    • Iron Neck would give you:

    227 Hp
    331 Mana
    25 Weight

    10 Def to all
    • And Warrior Pendant +2 would give you:

    28 Ac
    314 Hp
    466 Mana
    50 Weight
    38 AP (as you statted)

    35fr
    15gr
    15lr
    so the question is:
    87hp / 25weight / 28ac / 135mana / 35fr 15gr 15lr / 38 AP (This is what you gain going from IN to WP +2) > 10 def to all ?

    my theory:
    Most classes are normally mages & archers/sins, you don't see so much warriors in dcz from what i can still remember.
    Also in case there are warriors. Just use spear, club, axe def.
    Why? Cause most likely the warriors are gonna use either raptor & avedon and then you got bp's who would use hell breaker, which warriors would use to.

    And all together warriors & bp's form like 20% of all the classes in dcz?

    edit: i just see that you have an IB, so that + some def armors would def be good enough against the warriors in dcz.

    So my answer would be:
    Yes WP +2 > IN in dcz.


    Btw:
    I based this theory on Ares dcz, i have no clue how C-W dcz is cause i never tried it on cw

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    WP+2 all the way,
    i even prefer wp+2 in cz :P

    oh and about "i already have 2k+ mp" a sin cant have to much mp

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer View Post
    WP+2 all the way,
    i even prefer wp+2 in cz :P

    oh and about "i already have 2k+ mp" a sin cant have to much mp
    i got 2.5k mp :P i think the difference between 2.4kmp isnt that big

    for now I might stick with the wp then , keep the opinions coming.

    I like being like 3 vs 1 and stuff like that (i like jumping in big groups the most fun thing in pk, even if u die), so how much would the IN help me compared to the WP+2?

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    Well guys your teories are not based on CW DCZ situation. As i said i wasnt there for like 2 weeks, but before there werent so many mages, i would say ressistances would not help. And as u said, that u like 3vs1 and stuff there would help IN for sure, u need to survive the fight, not just spike for like +3% more.

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    38 ap dont make big difference in dmg . Even in c-w are not many good mages at dcz, just few runing around, but they are not hard. Dont rly need big resists, in my experience.
    Iron neck is very helpful when u want to 1 vs 2/3 or more .
    I suggest u to use IN

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    id go wp all the way you have ib so why not some more ac and ap .

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    i prefer IN, cuz if u already got high ap, u should go for defense, and its damn fun to make 4v1 etc, and for that u need IN.

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