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Hiz teaches young players how to play rogue!!!111!

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    dam hiz from the sound of these post u suck well i still think 000000 guide was better, its just my opinoin

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    Hiz's skill bar like this;
    F1;
    1)illusion
    2)illusion
    3)illusion
    4)illusion
    5)illusion
    6)illusion
    7)illusion
    8)illusion and one of them is on right click
    It's hiz style;Illusion and town

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    Originally posted by PADDY
    best combo is still cr skill cr skill cr skill

    works as well as any other combo, and if you do it slowly you can make it look like you're bouncing

    anyway, Hiz is not a great sin, hell he may not even be a good sin, but i don't think he deserves to be criticised for taking time out of his life to try and help people to improve their game playing experience.
    What about all the time he took out of my life starting a 1vs1 with me only to start running 5 secs later? :P

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    Originally posted by __countess__+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(__countess__)</div>
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    best combo is still cr skill cr skill cr skill

    works as well as any other combo, and if you do it slowly you can make it look like you're bouncing

    anyway, Hiz is not a great sin, hell he may not even be a good sin, but i don't think he deserves to be criticised for taking time out of his life to try and help people to improve their game playing experience.
    What about all the time he took out of my life starting a 1vs1 with me only to start running 5 secs later? :P[/b]
    he borrowed some of your time to make it too

    oh and zero, stop following me around trying to insult me like some petty child, you just look pathetic

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    I've tried every single combo possible and find skill W+R to be the best one there is. Amazing how fast you can hit if you know your timing perfectly, makes it possible for me to minor heal faster also with the w+r combo, don't know why. Skill c+r is just a waste of time, since you can't minor heal combo or pot that well with it. :lol: On topic, Hiz probably just copied Zero's guide and made a few adjustments. That's all.

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    Paddy and Zero your both as bad as each other!! Both of you go to your room with no supper!!!



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    Default Re: Hiz teaches young players how to play rogue!!!111!

    Originally posted by TripleOG4life+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TripleOG4life)</div>
    http://forum.knightonlineworld.com/f...howtopic=88623

    i know a few ppl who cant login ko forums so i'll copy paste *
    <!--QuoteBegin-Hiz
    Dear KnightOnline players. sprcially Rogue

    I am a Hiz lvl71 rogue in Diez. my Nation point is over 1 million now.I dont remember how many NP i have exactry now i dont check my NP since i can make grade 1 clan only by myself. some ppl say Hiz is a KSer. other ppl say he is good gun. now i wanna tell you how do I fight with orc. I hope young new guns something get from me.

    lesson 1 Fighting tactics.

    Rogue has a very good advantage other chatacter doesnt have. what is it?
    It is Only Rogue can decide WHEN WE START TO FIGHT. *
    you must start to attack when you have a image to kill them.

    onece you have the image. you can start attack from the strongest your skill. I always attack from lvl70 skill , spike and so on. some ppl says you must use spike when you see them red ball. it is wrong. because if you dont use your strongest attack, enemy trying to kill you too. or they can town so easy.
    And most important reason why i use strongest skill at first. I am trying to them afraid to die. this is a most importat thing of fighting tactics. onece enemy start to afraid to die. it is same meaning you WIN.

    Use strogest skill within surprised attack.


    lesson 2 To avoid surprised attack

    If you are Rogue and you are surprised attacked. I call you noob.
    rogue never be surpise attacked.

    As you know a Rogue. we can use stelth. it mean enemy assasin can use stelth too. many people use "Z" key to target enemy. but do you know? "z" key can detect stelth assasin too. before you go out from the town. use lupin and Press "B". you can target human NPC. now you can go out form town. and you must hit "z" key while you are running. like "ZzzzzzzzzzzZZZzzZzZzz" *
    if there are no Orc with stelth. target must be same NPC because you pressed "B" or target will change to "flame apo" or something else monster. BUT if there are Orc with stelth. your NPC target disapiar. It is the time you must stop and press "z" again. now your character face to a direction to the Orc. RUN NOW to the direction! THERE IS THE ORC WITH STELTH!


    lesson 3 combo

    why are we Rogue? because a combo! conbo skill is a most attractive technique of Rogue. I always practice combo even i am lvl 71 now. as you already know, so many people mentioned this subject.

    there are about 3 type of combo
    1. skill rr skill rr skill rr .......
    2. skill rs skill rs skill rs ......
    3. skill rw kill rw skill rw .....

    Combo, the other name "skill motion cancel technique". you can combo any style if you can cancel skill animation.

    From my experience.. i use only skill rr skill rr skill rr... because the other type of combo is complicated.
    some people says skill rs skill rs .. combo is good against 5 arrow. but i preffer simple combo. If i must fight against 5 arrow, i just use combo with slide. i think it is better. anyway simple combo is better because you have to heal, use soul and keep watching around for other enemy while you are fighting.

    combo is a rhythm. you cant to do it too fast and not even slow. just a rhythm. but there are many contition of server that called lag. and rhythm is deffellent. so? how do I make a rhythm?
    It is SOUND. when you hear the attacking sound when you used skill, hit "rr" then skill. and you hear the sound again? rr skill again.....

    the point is you keep pressing the skill key untill you hear the sound then fast rr skill. 7 combo is possible in 4.5 sec.

    Hint* skill r skill is faster than combo. if you are sure they must die by your 2 skill. "skill r skill" is more fast.
    Hint** keep pressing "W" key or "up arrow" key when you are chaseing enemy and attack.



    well, I have many thing to talk about. but time up now. maybe i can answer you if you request me what subject you want know from me. I hope this article can help you a little bit.
    he doesnt teach u how to light feet when ur losing a 1v1 or how to illusion in 1v1 though [/b]
    i owned him many times...hes noob and he using illusion h43r:

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    Default Re: Hiz teaches young players how to play rogue!!!111!

    Originally posted by Mario+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mario)</div>
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    he doesnt teach u how to light feet when ur losing a 1v1 or how to illusion in 1v1 though
    are u kiddin bro ????? HE NEVER 1vs1 !!!![/b]
    Who the hell gets to 1v1 anybody? I'll try to 1v1 anyone and everyone, I even tried Score last Friday, got my ass pwned, too. But 99% of the time its more like 1v5.

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    My only commentary on this will be :

    Respect for Hiz,because he tries to help people,he never cheated and if he still is the same hiz as 1,5 years ago then he is a nice person too.


    Like Paddy said this doesnt deserve any Criticism except than that he isnt the best sin.

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    Originally posted by CandyMan
    My only commentary on this will be :

    Respect for Hiz,because he tries to help people,he never cheated and if he still is the same hiz as 1,5 years ago then he is a nice person too.


    Like Paddy said this doesnt deserve any Criticism except than that he isnt the best sin.

    Thing is if you used someone elses work and tryed to take the credit for it then why do you deserve anything?

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    just a thought. Combo wasn't meant to exist right? It was a bug declared legal.
    Now in normal circumstances rogue has lower ac than the rest except mage, but the highest offence skill + the ability to run faster. How would you think to kill a warrior by tanking or sliding if not without combo?
    Maybe rogue was meant to be played Hiz style :P

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    this made me laugh so hard ... he like really got into it "GO THERE IS ORC GO ATTACK HIM" ... this kid also needs to learn better english it was getting to ms <_<

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    Originally posted by PADDY+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PADDY)</div>
    Originally posted by __countess__@
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    best combo is still cr skill cr skill cr skill

    works as well as any other combo, and if you do it slowly you can make it look like you're bouncing

    anyway, Hiz is not a great sin, hell he may not even be a good sin, but i don't think he deserves to be criticised for taking time out of his life to try and help people to improve their game playing experience.


    What about all the time he took out of my life starting a 1vs1 with me only to start running 5 secs later? :P
    he borrowed some of your time to make it too

    oh and zero, stop following me around trying to insult me like some petty child, you just look pathetic [/b]
    Funny how you managed to post right after me, obviously misinterpreting my constructive criticism as flaming. Think twice before you post, or maybe make it less obvious that you are trolling.

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    i think in all honesty im way much better at ksing than hiz. anyone that has ever pkd with me should confirm this.

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    Originally posted by h3h3h3
    dont want to rain on his parade, but if you do skill rs or skill rw, you will not be hitting very fast. all the good combos involve cancelling the skill straight away and letting the R run, so it should be skill sr or skill wr or skill rr. any other permutation of those buttons (skill rs, skill swr, skill wswsrsrswssws) is just going to be slower than the way i said. *

    usually when sins ask me to help them with their combo, their mistake is the order of the buttons, or the timing. The most important thing is to cancel the skill straight away, and then do the R attack until the next skill is ready. If you do it right you wont see a skill animation.

    that's right , until the skill animation is cancelled , you can NOT use your minor heal , so the faster you cancel the animation after a skill , the faster you can minor heal , but i think you'll attack just as fast.

    now if you don't want any animation at all , what you do is :

    _target someone
    _keep holding W until he is dead
    _ press R one time only at the beginning
    _ just do the skill with the good timing

    it might sound a bit too easy and stupid to work , but so far it's the fastest way to minor heal i found for a rogue.

    but on a side note , it doesnt work well if someone is running , or if he slides / uses a S R combo



    now , if you want a tips to make some free np , keep spike on and attack red balling paper mage :rollseyes:

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