GAS PRICES

[mdeac48]

We're paying for health care and retirement fund just as well, doh.[/b]

You're paying for a guaranteed retirement. I'm stashing it away in the hopes that it will beat inflation over the next 30+ years. If the market goes bad right before I retire (like the baby boomers here are having to deal with) then I could be screwed. That retirement money will also have to pay for my old age healthcare problems, and those haven't gotten any cheaper in a couple of generations, so they're likely to cost me even more when I retire. You might have to pay more in taxes, but you get the security of a guaranteed payout and benefits. Thats the difference, you pay more taxes for a guaranteed return, I pay less for a chance to do it myself and possibly screw it up royally.

[Trialmod7]

Complain as much as you want about the Gas prices but let's keep the flaming down a bit. ^^

[Private]

You're paying for a guaranteed retirement. I'm stashing it away in the hopes that it will beat inflation over the next 30+ years. If the market goes bad right before I retire (like the baby boomers here are having to deal with) then I could be screwed. That retirement money will also have to pay for my old age healthcare problems, and those haven't gotten any cheaper in a couple of generations, so they're likely to cost me even more when I retire. You might have to pay more in taxes, but you get the security of a guaranteed payout and benefits. Thats the difference, you pay more taxes for a guaranteed return, I pay less for a chance to do it myself and possibly screw it up royally.[/b]

ugh next 30 years i'd be impressed if the dollar is still around ... 30 years gold might not even mean shit ... it should but looking at china dumping gold and just buying up copper and other metals related to battery power tech its kinda worrying

Complain as much as you want about the Gas prices but let's keep the flaming down a bit. ^^[/b]

flaming ? its off topic GTFO refer to my warnings

[Trialmod7]

ugh next 30 years i'd be impressed if the dollar is still around ... 30 years gold might not even mean shit ... it should but looking at china dumping gold and just buying up copper and other metals related to battery power tech its kinda worrying
flaming ? its off topic GTFO refer to my warnings[/b]

Oh im sorry, I dont care. Post intelligently or dont post at all.

[Private]

See above, we're paying 7-8$ A GALLON.

Now, considering my tank holds 80 litre, and I need a refill just about every 1 1/2 weeks... with each refill being around 100euro..

Oh sweet, I'm only paying 340$-400$ in GAS every month.
I'm so glad it's getting warmer again though, can soon take my motorbike out of the garage and save up on a looooooooooooooooooooooot of money not to mention the huge fun factor of riding zeh bike.[/b]

yeh dude i used to spend about the same i do about 30 - 40 k miles a year with my business i have to travel alot and my car is like 21 mpg average

gotta understand tho that oil in ur country is alot more expensive for different reasons then the us . Although we will probly reach at least 4-5 usd by late 2010 if not more . It mostly depends on how fast the market recovers it could be early 2010 or late 2009 and oil should follow the market shortly .

Problem is the current us government doesn't care about the price of gas ... to them it only means more tax revenue / less votes (census bull shit will make up for that) .

alot think its on the way up now but im sure it will drop after this weekend

Oh im sorry, I dont care. Post intelligently or dont post at all.[/b]

if thats a rule this forum is dead

[Trialmod7]

yeh dude i used to spend about the same i do about 30 - 40 k miles a year with my business i have to travel alot and my car is like 21 mpg average

gotta understand tho that oil in ur country is alot more expensive for different reasons then the us . Although we will probly reach at least 4-5 usd by late 2010 if not more . It mostly depends on how fast the market recovers it could be early 2010 or late 2009 and oil should follow the market shortly .

Problem is the current us government doesn't care about the price of gas ... to them it only means more tax revenue / less votes (census bull shit will make up for that) .

alot think its on the way up now but im sure it will drop after this weekend
if thats a rule this forum is dead[/b]

Post semi-intelligent post or don't post at all.

[Natazaku]

I see socialism works wonders on gas prices.

[evilwevel]

I see socialism works wonders on gas prices.[/b]

hasn't got anything to do with any -ism. just a bunch of people who wear towels on their head who get to decide what we will pay for our oil.

[Hemes]

get diesels guys, its really better
in belgium diesel is about : 0.90 €/L = 1.25US$
But now i&#39;m still on benzine, I pay 5€/week for my scooter that uses +-4L/100KM(now getting less, <3 warm weather, no more cold engine when driving to school which is about 4KM&#39;s )

[DrUnKeNmAsTeR]

oh stop crying already, fucking americans whining over their gas prices...

we&#39;re paying 1,40 euro a litre..

that&#39;s ONLY about: 7,43$ a gallon.[/b]

+1 to that

they ripping off us

[Natazaku]

hasn&#39;t got anything to do with any -ism. just a bunch of people who wear towels on their head who get to decide what we will pay for our oil.[/b]

Can&#39;t remember which European country it was (Norway?) that drills mostly all their oil and pays $5 a gallon.

[Bowtie4Life]

1 US gallon = 3.78541178 liter
80 liter = 21.1337642 US gallons

I&#39;m driving a BMW 540i, E39[/b]

Ah ok, sounded worse when you said 80 My tank is 42 gallons and tops out at about 11-13 mpg...so go figure...

get diesels guys, its really better
in belgium diesel is about : 0.90 €/L = 1.25US$
But now i&#39;m still on benzine, I pay 5€/week for my scooter that uses +-4L/100KM(now getting less, <3 warm weather, no more cold engine when driving to school which is about 4KM&#39;s )[/b]

Diesel is actually cheaper right now then the cheap gas, while a few weeks ago it was about 15-20 cents more. I laughed at my dad for buying a diesel truck cuz of the prices, but now Im sure he&#39;s gonna rub it my face sooner or later.

[evilwevel]

the diesel costs less, but the tax is higher.

but i agree, if you&#39;re doing a lot of miles diesel is the way to go if you want to save some money.

only downside is that i am just a poor student who can&#39;t really afford to buy a new car right now so i&#39;ll just have to stick with my old car for about 1.5 years (if all goes well with exams and such)

[mdeac48]

Has there been an improvement in diesel cleanliness lately? Last I understood, diesel still put out a lot more particulate matter than unleaded gasoline. It also isn&#39;t that fun to use in cold weather places, I would hate having to plug in my car every time I parked outside.

And don&#39;t get me started about the actual cost of ethanol. Wasting perfectly good corn for a 0.3kcal/gal energy increase (which is probably negative when you look at water costs). Switch grass is where its at.

ugh next 30 years i&#39;d be impressed if the dollar is still around ... 30 years gold might not even mean shit ... it should but looking at china dumping gold and just buying up copper and other metals related to battery power tech its kinda worrying[/b]

Personally, the gold standard never made much sense to me (and its not all that relevant today either since our entire economic system is more faith based, but still). What good is gold? It makes decent electrical connections, and I&#39;m sure its used in a few other industrial instances, but other than that its useless. Only true wealth is land, which is required for food and mineral production. And to keep that you need bullets and to exploit it you need manufacturing technologies (to build the equipment, also, more bullets).

[Hemes]

the diesel costs less, but the tax is higher.

but i agree, if you&#39;re doing a lot of miles diesel is the way to go if you want to save some money.

only downside is that i am just a poor student who can&#39;t really afford to buy a new car right now so i&#39;ll just have to stick with my old car for about 1.5 years (if all goes well with exams and such)[/b]

diesel have same taxes as benzine few years they dropped the diesel-tax..