ABORTION ?

**Private** · 10-27-2009, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by Psy

Having an abortion is like having a bad period. I think the government should fund it and harvest stem cells so that we, the ones who are living, can live longer and healthier lives. I do believe women should be educated before they go through with it though. Far too often, women regret having the abortion. Even women who have their baby and give it up for adoption tend to look for it later on in life. Abortions are going to happen no matter what, and the only people who will regret it are the people who have them. It's a social issue. And the people protesting abortion are in the same category of the people who protest gay marraige, integration, and animals being used as clothes.

Sorry , but to suggest harvesting embryonic stem cells is crazy . Its reckless considering the amount of embryonic stem cells already available . Specially when you consider . Adult stem cell research has produced 72 cures and treatments. Embryonic stem cell research and human cloning has produced “0” cures and treatments.

Our views will obviously differ considering you think of abortion no different then having a ban period . Nothing but stank comes from a period .

I guess you were in the process of editing and the part you added is basically the same view I share . Other then the bit about the states .

**Psy** · 10-27-2009, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Private

Sorry , but to suggest harvesting embryonic stem cells is crazy . Its reckless considering the amount of embryonic stem cells already available . Specially when you consider . Adult stem cell research has produced 72 cures and treatments. Embryonic stem cell research and human cloning has produced “0” cures and treatments.

Our views will obviously differ considering you think of abortion no different then having a ban period . Nothing but stank comes from a period .

I guess you were in the process of editing and the part you added is basically the same view I share . Other then the bit about the states .

I don't like the idea of a centralized government dictating actions to its citizens. Abortion should have always been a state issue. By making it a state issue, the state can choose whether or not to tax their citizens and allocate funds for the otherwise aborted children.

**tHeUnBeAtAbLe** · 10-27-2009, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Private

the one off the top of my head is the game (rapper).

his mom was going to abort him and didn't and he's hooood rich y0

In all seriousness . My step-sister adopted a child who otherwise would've been aborted . He's 13 now plays football , gets good grades , and he's my fucking nephew and I love him .

I know a ton of kids who were adopted and are going to college now . A good friend of mine just graduated and is now going to school to be a doctor .

Didn't know that honestly, I've only known one guy back in high school who mentioned he was an "accident", and well of course he's just like any other human out there, normal and fine, I just think that they usually have disadvantages in life, that's if something bad happens, like lets say a divorce or whatever the reason is, pretty much one of the main reasons why it leads the adults to thinking about abortion.

**gimmecookiesnao** · 10-27-2009, 07:35 PM

aristotle was adopted i think his parents died when he was young.

edgar allen poe also
malcolm x
bible wise lets not forget moses

my view on abortions is that its alright for rape.

other than that my view on it is that if ur having sex you are FULLY aware of wat u are doing and acknowledge that pregnancy is a possibility. abortion is a way to avoid that responsibility = easy way out.

i really dont see it as murder b4 the 3rd month after that i see it as murder.

**Rad_Archer** · 10-27-2009, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Psy

I don't like the idea of a centralized government dictating actions to its citizens. Abortion should have always been a state issue. By making it a state issue, the state can choose whether or not to tax their citizens and allocate funds for the otherwise aborted children.

Exactly. Fortunately one of the advantages in the USA is the idea of local governments. If you are more liberal you tend to live in a more liberal area and if you are more right, you live in a more right. Thus, you can live with people who keep your ideals and not with people you don't agree with. I can't stand the socialist ideals of PC and if you have any moral objection to anything you are considered a fascist.

**tHeUnBeAtAbLe** · 10-27-2009, 08:48 PM

Well while having sex, you are aware but I mean I know for myself, if I got a girl pregnant even while using protection, I'd certainly want her to abort it,... not to be an asshole or anything, buy I mean I'm just hitting 20, and got a few more years of university to finish and then an excellent job career waiting... I'm not gonna let something that was an accident get in the way. Reading the last sentence does make it sound harsh, but it's the truth

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Xtr3m3 · 10-27-2009, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by gimmecookiesnao

my view on abortions is that its alright for rape.

other than that my view on it is that if ur having sex you are FULLY aware of wat u are doing and acknowledge that pregnancy is a possibility. abortion is a way to avoid that responsibility = easy way out.

i really dont see it as murder b4 the 3rd month after that i see it as murder.

Almost my thoughts...I don't agree with abortions except for special cases. If somebody wanted abortion because it was an "accident" and they "did not know what we were doing" AKA get me out of this situation ticket then it should be NOT be granted at all. I mean common were is the responsibility lol? Also I support 100 % stem cell research.

**gimmecookiesnao** · 10-28-2009, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by tHeUnBeAtAbLe

Well while having sex, you are aware but I mean I know for myself, if I got a girl pregnant even while using protection, I'd certainly want her to abort it,... not to be an asshole or anything, buy I mean I'm just hitting 20, and got a few more years of university to finish and then an excellent job career waiting... I'm not gonna let something that was an accident get in the way. Reading the last sentence does make it sound harsh, but it's the truth

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key sentence in that statement is "even while using protection"

if by some effed up miracle

you were using condoms and your girl was on the pill and she took the morning after pill after each time your guys fucked and STILL

got pregnant....

your real lucky or have some fucked up luck..

id see it as against all odds that kid was supposed to surivive he either is jesus incarnate or the antichrist

id have a hardtime aborting it. id look into adoption

**Felix** · 10-29-2009, 07:07 PM

There will always be a very heated argument over this subject. People will find both points for and against but ultimatley it is down to the mother if she wants it or not. She has to live with it on her consious for the rest of her life is so be it. This decsions should be left to her and noone else full stop.

**Rad_Archer** · 10-30-2009, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by Felix

There will always be a very heated argument over this subject. People will find both points for and against but ultimatley it is down to the mother if she wants it or not. She has to live with it on her consious for the rest of her life is so be it. This decsions should be left to her and noone else full stop.

So, what if your in a position where you have an affair with a woman and she gets pregnant and she wants to abort the baby and you don't, do you think she should have the only say? Just curious...

**tHeUnBeAtAbLe** · 10-30-2009, 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by Rad_Archer

So, what if your in a position where you have an affair with a woman and she gets pregnant and she wants to abort the baby and you don't, do you think she should have the only say? Just curious...

I think if she would want to abort the baby, that should pretty much sum up the whole situation for you. I simply think it's the woman's choice to abort or not, that's with the complications of what the partner wants.

Infat · 10-30-2009, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by tHeUnBeAtAbLe

I think if she would want to abort the baby, that should pretty much sum up the whole situation for you. I simply think it's the woman's choice to abort or not, that's with the complications of what the partner wants.

So if she wanted to keep the baby and he did not want to, He should have the choice of supporting the child. Many women use children as income potential. I know someone who will admit that she "accidentally" gets pregnant to get more money from child support.

**tHeUnBeAtAbLe** · 10-30-2009, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Infat

So if she wanted to keep the baby and he did not want to, He should have the choice of supporting the child. Many women use children as income potential. I know someone who will admit that she "accidentally" gets pregnant to get more money from child support.

No matter how this harsh sounds, but I would tell her that it's not the time to have it,... and if she simply doesn't listen and still wants it, then I would only have to say screw it. As I said, I'm not gonna let an accident ruin my career towards becoming a doctor.

**aligator** · 10-30-2009, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by tHeUnBeAtAbLe

No matter how this harsh sounds, but I would tell her that it's not the time to have it,... and if she simply doesn't listen and still wants it, then I would only have to say screw it. As I said, I'm not gonna let an accident ruin my career towards becoming a doctor.

Fortunately, this topic is not about you.

Originally Posted by Infat

So if she wanted to keep the baby and he did not want to, He should have the choice of supporting the child. Many women use children as income potential. I know someone who will admit that she "accidentally" gets pregnant to get more money from child support.

Agreed. Women like ^ drive me crazy, fucking bitches.