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This is a discussion on About Isiloon and FearFactor (Diez) within the General Chat forums, part of the Knight Online (ko4life.com) category; Originally posted by TunaFishyMe i dont see any bugs :wub: as i said its not a bug. but we still ...
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    Originally posted by TunaFishyMe
    i dont see any bugs
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    as i said its not a bug.
    but we still waiting for the gm.

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    omg....GET OVER IT _/

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    Originally posted by Speed of Dark
    If we did bugged the isiloon u think we will be such stupit to call the GM to watch us and to split the drops with another clan from the human side? (not to mention had to bring around 50 ppl down the floors).
    he has a point

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    If thats a bug, thats like saying taking TK with pure mages is a bug as well.

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    Oh, finnally a bit understanding :wub:
    now dont flame us plz at cz, PEACE TO ALL :wub: :wub:

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    thats what i tryed to explain over and over again... (what tez said)
    i hope this clears things up

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    Originally posted by devilscommandments
    omg....GET OVER IT _/
    omg stfu :lol: so many of us can say that about your posts so dont talk smack on others

    its not a bug people just think it is cause they cant see why the meles not getting owned....they dont get that the mage party is owning it with DOT damage for more than the meles.....see here is how it is.......the isloon has a nasty ac.....so when a mele ataks it it does little damage......so the mage skills are not affected by ac......they are affected by resists wich on isloon are not as good as her ac....thus the mages do more damage overall then the meles....now this does not apply for a full party of drainers as draining is not affected by ac since its a % of the mobs HP.......HOPE THIS CLEARS IT UP FOR ALL

    and yeah i guess it could hit the meles but thats why i said priest and mele party 4 mele 4 1920 healer and spaming heal each one....no one should die


    p.s. as far as lord and hakan.....u all had them banned yet no one has fraps of how they really did it....what if they did it this way.....maybe they didnt but you all banned them for being jelous of there cs with no solid proof......good community we have here....get the proof then have them banned....maybe they did bug it a diff way but i have not see any fraps yet

    also the paddy fraps of servant and mage not being hit by the aoe but he was getting hit doing nothing......LIES not bugged.....here is how i know this.....i went to farm servants for my clan to do down....there is other warrior sliding one as well.....i am far as hell away from this mob....standing doing nothing to it.....the bitchs hit me with aoe while i was standing .....the warrior took no damage......i was like WTF potted and moved farther away......so i go msn but half screen...the noob warriors slides over my way some.....this fcking cunt hits me with aoe and no damage to warrior sliding it.....I FUCKING DIED FROM AOE ATAK AND NEVER TOUCHED HER......WHY....i got owned so the video of paddy is not a clear proof that the mage was buging it too do who the hell knows but either way level 70 warrior got ownt :P

    but unlike others i like doing many tests and making sure i have hard core proof before accusing someone and ruining there name

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    i hope that oblivion members would stop blaming us now for something we didnt do(not all of them did).

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    Originally posted by Tez/Aja
    now for isloon.....get mages stand the right distance ....have all the mage stand on top of each other....with all the dot damage and damage from spells that party will do more then the mele party.....the mages will get hit with its aoe only.....now the other party will be meles and priests and all the mele atak it with no combo......isloon wont hit them cause the mages still do more total damage to she hits them with aoe and doesnt bother to hit the meles in front of her

    there u have it so now u all can do it

    its not a bug its a matter of choice of what isloon does and all it simply is proper planning and taking advantage of how she atak since she has 2 types
    That's actually the bug and why ppl are getting banned Tez Isiloon is a bugged boss and in a bugged map. If u dont hit R, it doesnt hit u back. Isiloon can hit as hard as Troll King, but if u bug it, u can tank it with pots.

    When we did it with Blood, we did it the "right" way, with mages, melees and a good amount of healers. Tanking the shit out of that thing, using combo as u will do with any other boss. ppl died and lost exp, but the drops were worth it. We did it several times like this. Sometimes we were able, sometimes we weren't, but always hitting it like any other boss.

    Most of u guys want the reward but dont want to make the effort. Isiloon drops uber items and u wanna take it with just pots???! Why is so hard to understand there's a clear BUG here. No other mob reacts like that, yet ppl fail to see it and try to take advantage of this? Don't try to justify yourself. Is 10000% obvious that mob has a problem and by exploiting that, u are taking unfair benefit from it. It's a bug abuse. If u hit a mob it should hit u back with all the attacks it has.

    Same shit as the previous bug with mobs were u could relog infront of them and just hit them without being attacked at all. Pretty much same thing here. Only reason u get hit at all is cause it has an AoE attack that hits everyone for low damage.

    Isiloon needs to get fixed so it actually hits u like every mob in this game. If u go down there and dont use R damage cause suddenly u forgot how to use combo, then u deserve to get banned for it. It's easy to tell when ppl are buggin Isiloon cause they aren't using combo and they are just poting the damage. Imagine taking a Troll King with 20 times more HP with just 720 pots. That's just ridiculous.

    And it's sad how ppl lack the common sense to see how WRONG this shit is.

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    But they clearly stated that Isloon does hit them with melee attack. Its melee attack is just covered by the AOE attack since the mages are hitting it much faster. Ive done DMs with two people and 1 healer. 1 tanks, the other stands and just uses skill. It all depends on how agro works. The DMs can only hit 1 person at a time. Thus, the 1 comboing will agro it more often so itll be hit more often. Its the same concept of how 3 people can tank a DMs with just points. The one who combos the slowest will get hit the least. I can r hit TK and not get hit as long as there are enough people to get the agro.
    Sorry, I may lack the "common sense" but are those considered bugs as well?

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    Originally posted by Devile+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Devile)</div>
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tez/Aja
    now for isloon.....get mages stand the right distance ....have all the mage stand on top of each other....with all the dot damage and damage from spells that party will do more then the mele party.....the mages will get hit with its aoe only.....now the other party will be meles and priests and all the mele atak it with no combo......isloon wont hit them cause the mages still do more total damage to she hits them with aoe and doesnt bother to hit the meles in front of her

    there u have it so now u all can do it

    its not a bug its a matter of choice of what isloon does and all it simply is proper planning and taking advantage of how she atak since she has 2 types
    That's actually the bug and why ppl are getting banned Tez Isiloon is a bugged boss and in a bugged map. If u dont hit R, it doesnt hit u back. Isiloon can hit as hard as Troll King, but if u bug it, u can tank it with pots.

    When we did it with Blood, we did it the "right" way, with mages, melees and a good amount of healers. Tanking the shit out of that thing, using combo as u will do with any other boss. ppl died and lost exp, but the drops were worth it. We did it several times like this. Sometimes we were able, sometimes we weren't, but always hitting it like any other boss.

    Most of u guys want the reward but dont want to make the effort. Isiloon drops uber items and u wanna take it with just pots???! Why is so hard to understand there's a clear BUG here. No other mob reacts like that, yet ppl fail to see it and try to take advantage of this? Don't try to justify yourself. Is 10000% obvious that mob has a problem and by exploiting that, u are taking unfair benefit from it. It's a bug abuse. If u hit a mob it should hit u back with all the attacks it has.

    Same shit as the previous bug with mobs were u could relog infront of them and just hit them without being attacked at all. Pretty much same thing here. Only reason u get hit at all is cause it has an AoE attack that hits everyone for low damage.

    Isiloon needs to get fixed so it actually hits u like every mob in this game. If u go down there and dont use R damage cause suddenly u forgot how to use combo, then u deserve to get banned for it. It's easy to tell when ppl are buggin Isiloon cause they aren't using combo and they are just poting the damage. Imagine taking a Troll King with 20 times more HP with just 720 pots. That's just ridiculous.

    And it's sad how ppl lack the common sense to see how WRONG this shit is.[/b]
    no offense devile but your wrong cause its not a bug if its the mobs choice.....all mobs are like this......and who said i had to use R atak on any mob....if i dont use R atak on tk does that mean i bug tk cause i can still kill tk.....other example i have party of 7 mages and me and we go after HQ....i dont use R atak.....ever....who do u think HQ will go after .....the mages not me....so is this bugged to....no its the choice of the mob to atak the one who is hurting it the most....and it sure as hell is not me with just my HS.....this is not a bug....its programing on the part of k2....all mobs do it....is why a mage can lure a boss away from the meles in 2 hits or less even though the meles atak is much stronger as a whole....but again goes by ac....where as mage goes by resists which mobs dont have

    p.s. devile i know your going to say well at least HQ moves to try to get the mages so to that yes you are right they do more damage it goes for them....but isloon does too...only diff is she has aoe atak and HQ doesnt......ok so if k2 or u think its a bug take away the aoe atak on her and then that will stop it all

    i also dont see how wrong it is not to use combo....for a long time no one comboed....so that means we all get banned....your not giving anyone a choice and your taking it away to decided to use a R atak or not....also i can take tk with no combo ....do that means i get banned

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    wait...im a bit confused. If I walk upto isloon and I spike her. Will she hit me? If yes, I dont see what devile is trying to say.

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    Originally posted by Devile+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Devile)</div>
    <!--QuoteBegin-Tez/Aja
    now for isloon.....get mages stand the right distance ....have all the mage stand on top of each other....with all the dot damage and damage from spells that party will do more then the mele party.....the mages will get hit with its aoe only.....now the other party will be meles and priests and all the mele atak it with no combo......isloon wont hit them cause the mages still do more total damage to she hits them with aoe and doesnt bother to hit the meles in front of her

    there u have it so now u all can do it

    its not a bug its a matter of choice of what isloon does and all it simply is proper planning and taking advantage of how she atak since she has 2 types
    That's actually the bug and why ppl are getting banned Tez Isiloon is a bugged boss and in a bugged map. If u dont hit R, it doesnt hit u back. Isiloon can hit as hard as Troll King, but if u bug it, u can tank it with pots.

    When we did it with Blood, we did it the "right" way, with mages, melees and a good amount of healers. Tanking the shit out of that thing, using combo as u will do with any other boss. ppl died and lost exp, but the drops were worth it. We did it several times like this. Sometimes we were able, sometimes we weren't, but always hitting it like any other boss.

    Most of u guys want the reward but dont want to make the effort. Isiloon drops uber items and u wanna take it with just pots???! Why is so hard to understand there's a clear BUG here. No other mob reacts like that, yet ppl fail to see it and try to take advantage of this? Don't try to justify yourself. Is 10000% obvious that mob has a problem and by exploiting that, u are taking unfair benefit from it. It's a bug abuse. If u hit a mob it should hit u back with all the attacks it has.

    Same shit as the previous bug with mobs were u could relog infront of them and just hit them without being attacked at all. Pretty much same thing here. Only reason u get hit at all is cause it has an AoE attack that hits everyone for low damage.

    Isiloon needs to get fixed so it actually hits u like every mob in this game. If u go down there and dont use R damage cause suddenly u forgot how to use combo, then u deserve to get banned for it. It's easy to tell when ppl are buggin Isiloon cause they aren't using combo and they are just poting the damage. Imagine taking a Troll King with 20 times more HP with just 720 pots. That's just ridiculous.

    And it's sad how ppl lack the common sense to see how WRONG this shit is.[/b]
    That depends Devile. If you are saying that it's a bug to not get hit when you hit R, I can accept that. However, we must consider the fact that the only reason people are hitting R is to combo, which is in of itself a bug. It seems to me that the skills which are "spammable" were created to do a quick succession of attacks without use of "comboing". If Isiloon is designed to use a melee attack within a certain range and you are outside of that range, then it's acting along the lines of its programming. It's the same as me not being able to attack with my staff if you are outside the range for it, but I can cast spells. If my staff attack had the same damage multipliers that Isiloon has, and your raptor has a greater reach than my staff, would it not benefit you to stay outside that range and still attack?

    To not get hit because you don't abuse the combo bug seems like a funny turn of events to be penalized for IMO.

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    That's actually the bug and why ppl are getting banned Tez
    well the gm doesnt seem to agree with you. we showed him the entire thing and he said he has to investigate it. and even if it turns out to be a bug we wont get a ban. look at the screen shots i posted, all is writen there. he told me the programmers would come to look at us do it again when they can.

    When we did it with Blood, we did it the "right" way
    to me it seems like the stupid way.

    Most of u guys want the reward but dont want to make the effort. Isiloon drops uber items and u wanna take it with just pots???!
    we did isiloon 3 times only and got
    1)bus, bes
    2)rogue shell pads
    3)complete helm
    that doesnt seem like uber items to me, just servant drops.

    o other mob reacts like that, yet ppl fail to see it and try to take advantage of this?
    try hitting atross with a bow, he will ONLY use his fire ranged attack on you, never coming closer, only staying put using fire ranged attack.

    It's a bug abuse.
    the gm (kotoko) didnt decide that yet, so who are you to decide if it bug abuse or not.


    Isiloon needs to get fixed so it actually hits u like every mob in this game. If u go down there and dont use R damage cause suddenly u forgot how to use combo, then u deserve to get banned for it.
    then i guess you think entire praetorian should get banned.





    And it's sad how ppl lack the common sense to see how WRONG this shit is.
    kotoko also didnt see how wrong this is. i guess we have a gm with no common sense

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    [/quote]And it's sad how ppl lack the common sense to see how WRONG this shit is.
    kotoko also didnt see how wrong this is. i guess we have a gm with no common sense.
    [/quote]


    umm bad example on that last one :P :lol:

    gm and commons sense should never be put in same sentance

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