thats wut i hear ppl saying but, put in mind theres others upgrading too. They could go off ur break and u could go off theirs....lets say there's a probability of 5% for getting +8 that means there's 95% that it will fail, you have 10 +7 cleavers - first one fails so failure % decreases by (5%?) therefore increasing your probability of getting a +8 to 10% and decreasing failure % to a total of 90...if 9 cleavers fail your 10th cleaver would most likely have a 50% of going through and a 50% of failing?[/b]

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