Minor Heal Cool Down

[bknight]

Alright then, all rogues should use single minor and then everyone should load up on talias, weapon defences, and resistances. We'll all become complete tanks so that no one will ever die. Wow this sounds fun.
Which is why we're proving them wrong.[/b]

mmm sounds fun super low ap and super high def and resist no one will ever die. but aslong as its fair.

[TheBBQ]

mmm sounds fun super low ap and super high def and resist no one will ever die. but aslong as its fair.[/b]

Yeah agreed. No one should die in this game, that's just stupid. It's only fair when no one can kill each other, duh.
This way I'll just hp pot through everyone. Woot! Add 1 minute cool down to minor please.

[bknight]

wait lets not even fight...lets just look at each other and think as if we were actually in a fight..thats sounds like a good idea. i vote for that one.

[Parasitic]

Maybe you should learn how to use weapon and elemental resistance armors like everyone else has to do against rogues. Instead of relying on dual minor as a crutch.

I can kill rogues just fine.. And the top geared sins who dual minor on my server I can't kill, but they can't kill me either.. Because I use DD and they use Dual minor. If they throw on a GR talia and maybe some more GR jewel then suddenly I don't do dmg just like they aren't doing to me with my DD. Go figure they don't need dual minor then.[/b]

Your logic fails. I don't even want to continue this argument, you're so blind.

[TheBBQ]

Damn that priest looked at me the wrong way... XD
PacifistKO

P.S. Officially 16 now.

[karysa]

You guys think this is a game about vs. That's where you all fail.

[bknight]

nonon karysa you got it all wrong..we can imagine team vs team too not just vs's. wowowowow i just owned this party in cz. i wasnt even logged on. THAT WAS SO MUCH FUN!

ps. when i said owned, what i meant was we all had full hp and ran outta pots so we went back to town and had a friendly chat.

[TheBBQ]

I noticed many people consider rogue as the scouting class, as the scouting class rogues often run into tough situations. So we should have something to get us out of these situations, tadaa! Minor heal!

[Parasitic]

You guys think this is a game about vs. That's where you all fail.[/b]

I never said vs, but yeah, this game does have a lot of fun in it. Just because mages don't vs each other very often doesn't mean you needa bitch. Go complain with your flawed logic somewhere else. Maybe they'll listen to you at official forums where all the idiots who think like you are.

[griml2eaper]

most good rouges are always still good ive heard from a few people that they like it better gives them more control

[TheWorldWelivingIn]

I never said vs, but yeah, this game does have a lot of fun in it. Just because mages don't vs each other very often doesn't mean you needa bitch. Go complain with your flawed logic somewhere else. Maybe they'll listen to you at official forums where all the idiots who think like you are.[/b]

everyone is "sick" of the vs stuff, u kill someoen in war, they send letter, come vs noob and so on.
the mage didnt complain, the rogues are complaining. And giving out his/her opinion dosent make him and idiot. Look in da mirror?

[Parasitic]

everyone is "sick" of the vs stuff, u kill someoen in war, they send letter, come vs noob and so on.
the mage didnt complain, the rogues are complaining. And giving out his/her opinion dosent make him and idiot. Look in da mirror?[/b]

You haven't read all of our arguing. He wants us to all slap on talias and be uber tanks. Where would the fun be in that? Either side loses in this no matter what happens really. Rogues either lose full minor healing abilities, or mages/warriors/priests have to deal with rogues like they always have had to. Some things are best left unchanged, and I think this is definitely one of them.

Something else I wanna add that I don't think all of the people here have read. I think that this game is balanced the way it is, and it shouldn't really change skillwise one bit. Items I could care less about, go ahead, slap on your weapon defenses and elemental resists, doesn't matter for me, every one goes down eventually I really am going to try to ignore a few people here, unless they pull another load of bullshit out of their asses to try to make rogues seem unfair.

[ArminVanBuuren]

Since when was dual minor considered a bug?[/b]

Since it replaced CTRL+minor after RoFD came out.

You make every single old school player sound like a god.
Single minor, dual minor. Exactly the same, it's pure minor regardless of how many minors you have on a skillbar. Single minor was enough back then because people didn't hit as hard as they do now.
With no cooldown there were no limits to how many minors you could get and now they set a glass ceiling by introducing the cooldown.[/b]

First of all, I haven't found any Gods in this game yet, and I doubt I will someday.

Now, if single minor and dual minor are exactly the same, then why you complain so much? Single minor was enough back because people didn't hit as hard as they do now? Try tanking NORBIT (oh yeah, with his +9s and everything) just by using single minor and a rogue with chitins +7/+6 and quest jewelry. I only died to NORBIT once, and was because I was gangbanged. Tanked with the same items against SomethingSmellsFunny and we couldn't never finish the duels (and frapped the 3 duels). Never had to use dual minor to do so, and I think everybody can. I can also use dual minor, I tested the CTRL+minor once to see how fast it was and was testing again the dual minor 2 days ago in Ares... certainly is a big difference in healing, but to me is unnecessary. I use myself the single minor since I find it better for my pk style...for me dual minor is just for escaping...for surviving single minor is more than enough.

The last phrase is interesting...I'm a rogue (always been, will never change), and even if I know a warrior hits that hard I still consider that unfair somehow. You'll say "but you are limited by mana" yeah, but for a few seconds you are partially immortal. You are concerned about not having that? Then you certainly are not talking about fairness in here.

[crackurbak]

Correct me if i am wrong chappy, but didnt Linus say IT WAS BEING IMPLEMENTED?
I said it once so ill say it again! Knight Online is based on a party system. The only arguments here about not keeping the MHcd are about vs's and solo play.... go figure.
Your arguments are based on greed. Not only do you have the hardest hitting skills in the game, but you also have the most effective solo heal. Now it IS gonna be slowed down, you all cry like you just got fuct in the ass.
As an INT priest, im looking forward to the cd. Gives me a chance to play with more rogues instead of big fat dumb warriors.
Now, if you were to get off the self proclaimed pedestal you have pulled yourself up on and opened up your eyes, you would realize mh + hp pot + 1920/10k heals means alot of NP for you and I.
party play= loads of np
solo play = masturbation with 1970's hardcore porn :/

Anyways fuck arguing about this, its like listening to 2 years old that have had their lollipop taken away.[/b]

ROFL!! Go look at all my other posts i made on minor heal, i own party pk! I love it , ask anyone who has played recently wiht me and they will say so.
So im greedy because i like to 1v1? shut the fuck up.

PS: I wonder where your lvl 78 and 79's on cwest are? oh thats right, you were just that retard who wanted to be the center of attention.
and please dont try to be funny, you make yourself look even more mentally challenged then u are.

at bknight: im serious.

at parasatic: areyoudeadyet, monster sin! very skillful too, ive played his character a couple of times too and someone wiht them items + his skills is pretty deadly combination.

[silentdj]

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^^ thats what this topic has come to.. Face it, if you can't play without dual minor you suck on rogue in the first place.. Get over your fuckin selves.. Btw rogue is not the only hard class to 'master' because you have to spam 2 buttons fast.. Again get over your fucking selves..[/b]

are you stupid? its not only dual minor that wont be possible rofl... go l2 play a rouge and get back to me.

and to other ppl... ofc rouge isnt just 1v1's, without the normal minor, try healing your priest/mage when theres 10 ppl on him, it aint gunna help much.